Al Qaeda Assassinates Bhutto

12/27/2007

Elaine Meinel Supkis

Whenever I write the date on my stories in numbers rather than words, this is due to them being 'magic number' days. Today is just such a day and usually, when the Master Magicians are at work, they do it on these days in particular. I have been attacked by assassins in the past but since I have disappeared from public attention, no one bothers me anymore. Alas, Benazir Bhutto bravely chose to face the fury of the Storm and went forth to battle the Demons in public. She sensed that she would eventually be attacked, yet she still did her best. The world is at a breaking point, and Pakistan is one of the key pieces to this puzzle. They have nuclear bombs and the Magicians who launched us into these wars are interested in these nuclear bombs. Bin Laden only strikes on magic number days.

Benazir Bhutto killed in attack

Pakistani former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto has been assassinated in a suicide attack.

Ms Bhutto had just addressed an election rally in Rawalpindi when she was shot in the neck by a gunman who then set off a bomb.

At least 15 other people died in the attack and several more were injured.

President Pervez Musharraf and his government called on people to remain calm so that the "nefarious designs of terrorists can be defeated."

Many people online have convinced themselves that Bush and his bumbling gang blew up both World Trade Center buildings because the idea that some guy using few tools and a lot of strange powers couldn't do this, is very appealing. We all want the world to be logical and not magical even as we all want to believe in magic. The idea that there can be magic and reality at the same time baffles most people who think, magic is about levitating things or bending spoons!

There are subterranean forces that move in the dark in history. And this is what Freud tried to call 'The Id.' It is the older parts of our brains, the parts connected with the poorly-understood dream world. Half of our time is spend in this subterranean world! And there, magic rules!

Some people can cross that barrier and carry things from one side to the other. We call this 'creation' and it can be both good or evil depending on what one wants from that realm. No human can escape from the effects of this collective dream world! We are all subject to it.

The forces of history are moved on a sea of blood. The horses that history rides trample all underfoot. The blood of history flows in all our veins and we are also subject to the possibility of sudden death. If a human has a dream and talks about it in public and then rallies others to join them and then works to make this dream possible...can be shot in the head. The collapse of the 'good' side of Civil Rights was due to both assassins and corrupting the survivors by making them part of the ruling elites. If someone is too disruptive for the ruling elites, they unleash assassins who then kill them. Or, such as in the case of Kennedy, they ignore obvious assassins and allow them to approach or reach their targets.

Then there is black magic. All assassins operate in the darkness. They spring from the darker forces within our collective consciences. They have various goals and various means but the mainspring is to turn the Wheel of History via murder. The desire to kill in this fashion is very strong because the pay-offs are huge compared to the efforts involved. For example, American history would be different if we had no assassinations. The fear of assassination is one reason why many people won't appear in public, working for things the rulers or the magicians don't want.

Our own ruler, Bush, is extremely paranoid. He is surrounded by his military Praetorian Guard who protect him from unknown assassins. Yet the 9/11 conspiracy was carried out a mere few miles across from the secret island where the Bushes have their Florida hideaway where they do things like talk to Geronimo's skull and their Chinese kung-fu master who is a ghost. Oh, what are these?

The Bushes have talked about their kung-fu master. They joke about him and how they use his powers in the dark realms below the surface. They won't talk about Geronimo's skull, of course. This is one of the many strange, subterranean stories that occasionally breaks to the surface and then rapidly is gone again. Prescott Bush Sr. raided Geronimo's grave and took his skull and parts of his saddle. The reason he did this was so they could use it in magic spells. Geronimo was hit by lightning in his past and therefore, had 'great powers'. As a person who has been hit, I sometimes worry about this. Heh.

The US is led by a man who refuses to return Geronimo's skull to the Apaches. They, in turn, feel that Geronimo, having powers of the lightning bolt, will do whatever unhappy ghosts do in the Afterlife: destroy the living. So we have this bizarre situation where the Skull and Bones coven at Yale that has infiltrated the CIA as well as our government, using stolen skulls of 'magician's in order to tap into the Powers of Darkness. The entire CIA is very heavily tilted towards the subterranean world that runs below the surface. They want to understand the human dream world and how it works and they want to go there to find power. They want to 'see' into the future and 'see' into human souls. This is why they had to destroy the torture tapes: it shows the CIA's demonic side.

The people running our nation believe in magic numbers. All one has to do is ask either John Kerry or Bush about '322', their personal magic number. They will NOT talk about it. Both will deny they even have this! But they do. And their refusal to talk about this is treason. They have secrets within secrets and some of these have to do with Black Magic and Death. On top of all this, Bin Laden is waging a massive war with these people IN THAT REALM. Namely, they 'throw spells' at each other and BOTH use HUMAN SACRIFICES!

And this is what Benzair Bhutto is: a human sacrifice. I knew that this murder was an Al Qaeda operation due to the magical significance of the date.

1979 - The Soviet Union seizes control of Afghanistan and Babrak Karmal replaces overthrown and executed President Hafizullah Amin.
1985 - Palestinian guerrillas kill eighteen people inside Rome and Vienna airports.
1996 - Taliban forces retake the strategic Bagram air base which solidifies their buffer zone around Kabul.
1997 - Protestant paramilitary leader Billy Wright is assassinated in Northern Ireland.
2002 - Two truck bombs kill 72 and wound 200 at the pro-Moscow headquarters of the Chechen government in Grozny, Chechnya.

Al Qaeda feeds off of the ongoing tragedy of the Holy Lands. The US, pushed hard by the Arab kings, decided to pretend to do something about the Jewish crushing of the Muslims in this arena of death. Of course, all that came out of these negotiations were more Jewish colonial settlements on Arab lands, higher walls and more starvation and death for the people locked in the reproduction of the Warsaw Ghetto. This is one of the fountains of poison that are flowing into the ground and reemerging elsewhere. The Muslim battle for the Holy Lands is not an overt process with screaming hordes rushing into Jerusalem. Rather, Jerusalem is like a great churn, it is the eye of the hurricane, it is the pole around which many things circle. And one of these many things is severe religious conflicts.

Pakistan: Al-Qaeda claims Bhutto's death

A spokesperson for the al-Qaeda terrorist network has claimed responsibility for the death on Thursday of former Pakistani prime minister Benazir Bhutto.

“We terminated the most precious American asset which vowed to defeat [the] mujahadeen,” Al-Qaeda’s commander and main spokesperson Mustafa Abu Al-Yazid told Adnkronos International (AKI) in a phone call from an unknown location, speaking in faltering English. Al-Yazid is the main al-Qaeda commander in Afghanistan.

It is believed that the decision to kill Bhutto, who is the leader of the opposition Pakistan People's Party (PPP), was made by al-Qaeda No. 2, the Egyptian doctor, Ayman al-Zawahiri in October.

Death squads were allegedly constituted for the mission and ultimately one cell comprising a defunct Lashkar-i-Jhangvi’s Punjabi volunteer succeeded in killing Bhutto.

Al Qaeda was hatched deep inside the darker corners of the CIA. The CIA was founded by people who strongly believe in Black Magic and who want the powers of the Lightning Gods and who believe they can tap into this via religion. The founders of the CIA prayed to Geronimo's skull while drunk, at Yale, after all. They feel that they have the power to tap into the deepest roots of 'native' religions and use them for their own purposes which is to rule the world and exploit all the world's resources so their satanic spawn can join the Skull and Bones and eat with Hitler's silver ware.

The Jews working within the CIA and the Pentagon as well as the ones controlling our foreign policy at all levels from top to bottom, have their own religious agenda. They have allowed the End of Times Christians take over our air force. But they run our diplomatic machinery. And their religious dogma dovetails with the Christians taking over our air force: they want to own all of the Holy Land and to control the Muslims once and forever. The Christians running our air force want to not only nuke all Muslims to death, they want to force all the Jews to bow to their bloodstained god, Jesus. Ignoring this is fatal. The US government, instead of rooting out all the religious fanatics that infest our systems, has encouraged this process. The needs of these fanatics fuels our election process. They are the central force at work in the US and their goal is the Apocalypse on the part of the Christians or World Domination by the Jewish fanatics.

Into this comes the Muslims who are just as involved in creating a new World Order out of all this mess. They, too, are in a critical crisis where they feel they must fight for this New thing and they, like the others, are focusing increasingly on using nuclear weapons for this purpose: to blow up everything and start over again. Only the Jews don't want to blow up everything, only their rivals. Of course, the logic of all vortexes is, they suck in everyone and everything. The Jerusalem vortex is a major portal to this all-consuming darkness which is where Death lurks. Unlocking the portals that lead to the Apocalypse requires magical powers which we call 'religion.' In this, if one lines up the sun, the moon, the planets and the stars and then combines it with violent moves in the real world, one gets much greater forwards motions than if one does random acts.

This is why al Qaeda likes magic number days. They know this amplifies the effects of their actions. If they have their actions coincide with other, similar acts and if these are somehow attached to the Palestinian People, they feed the vortex. They turn the churn. The whole cosmic system which is the ultimate underpinning of all major world religions is the relative position of the stars with the earth. The earth does not turn on a secure axis but is tilted relative to the sun. And due to a wobble in this tilt which is because of the moon and the sun pulling our crooked planet slightly off-center, we don't see the same Zodiac stars rising in the East at critical times like now, when the Winter Solstice happens. All religions like to bury their astronomical origins but whenever the stars rising in the East shift to a new House in the Zodiac, we see religious outbursts. Old gods die and new ones take their place.

These changes are not friendly, they nearly always cause lots of chaos and uncertainty and take hundreds of years to play out and the forces released by this usually lasts for over 2,000 years each time it happens. Remnants of previous religious conversions due to star shifts can live on for many thousands of years. For example, the sanctity of the Bull continues in India long after Taurus ceased to rise at the Vernal Equinox.

The US today has taken the religious bull by the horns of dilemma and we are now involved in a multi-layered war with billions of Muslims over the meaning of this new epoch: the Age of Aquarius. The CIA cynically thought we could fool the Muslims and use them as a cat's paw against both Russia and China while at the same time, defying them as we colonize very brutally, the Middle East's Holy shrines of the Arian and Piscean ages. The Muslims and Christians moved across the planet for 2,000 years, spreading their peculiar religions via sword and book. Now, they prepare for yet another confrontation and this time, both are armed increasingly with vaster and vaster weapons. And unlike all the previous battles, the Jews have nuclear bombs, too.

The UN refuses to even discuss ANY of this. Indeed, in the US media or many places, this is a forbidden topic. Discussing how the Apocalypse can come into terrible being via nuclear war is simply not discussed until Iran decided to talk openly about all this. Of course, Iran was accused of making this happen even though Iran has no nuclear bombs. The parties which do have them have side-tracked the desperately needed talk about this looming nuclear catastrophe into the issue of whether or not Iran should be allowed to defend themselves or have nuclear power plants.

US to expand military presence in Pakistan

EARLY next year, US special forces are expected to vastly expand their presence in Pakistan, as part of an effort to train and support indigenous counter-insurgency forces and clandestine counter-terrorism units, according to American defence officials involved with the planning, reports Washington Post.

These Pakistan-centric operations will mark a shift for the US military and for US-Pakistan relations. In the aftermath of Sept 11, the US used Pakistani bases to stage movements into Afghanistan. Yet once the US deposed the Taliban government and established its main operating base at Bagram, north of Kabul, US forces left Pakistan almost entirely. Since then, Pakistan has restricted US involvement in cross-border military operations as well as paramilitary operations on its soil.

But the Pentagon has been frustrated by the inability of Pakistani forces to control the borders or the frontier area. And Pakistan’s political instability has heightened US concern about extremists there.

According to Pentagon sources, reaching a different agreement with Pakistan became a priority for the new head of the US Special Operations Command, Adm Eric T Olson.

Olson visited Pakistan in August, November and again this month, meeting with President Pervez Musharraf, Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee Gen Tariq Majid and Lt Gen Muhammad Masood Aslam, commander of the military and paramilitary troops in northwest Pakistan. Olson also visited the headquarters of the Frontier Corps, a separate paramilitary force recruited from Pakistan’s border tribes.
Now, a new agreement, reported when it was still being negotiated last month, has been finalised. And the first US personnel could be on the ground in Pakistan by early in the new year, according to Pentagon sources.

US Central Command Commander Adm William Fallon alluded to the agreement and spoke approvingly of Pakistan’s recent counter-terrorism efforts in a recent interview.

“What we’ve seen in the last several months is more of a willingness to use their regular army units,” along the Afghan border, Fallon said. “And this is where, I think, we can help a lot from the US in providing the kind of training, assistance and mentoring based on our experience with insurgencies recently and with the terrorist problem in Iraq and Afghanistan, I think we share a lot with them, and we’ll look forward to doing that.”

Prior to Ms. Bhutto's assassination, Pakistan has been rocked by bombs going off all over the place including the capital. Today, three US soldiers were blown up in Iraq but the US ignores this. We think the fighting there is over but it merely shifted. As bin Laden said long ago, he wanted us to rush to one place, then another, overthrowing or intimidating the corrupt Muslim rulers who oppress Islam. The US has this policy of pandering to Muslim leaders while betraying them at every possible turn. They, in turn, use us for their own ends. None of which benefit us in the long run.

The US wants to control Pakistan so they we can control Jerusalem. There is no other purpose to our being there. At least, no rational reason. The lack of rationality is what is so frightful here. Pakistan was created by the very same people who gave Jerusalem to the Jews: the British government. Indeed, the British empire took a number of old empires and cut them to pieces and then used these as bargaining chips or tools for world domination. When the Brits needed funds for WWI, they handed over the Vortex to Jewish financiers. They, in turn, opened this Pandora's box to Zionists within the Jewish community. They, in turn, formed the present alliance with Christians seeking the end of all Jews in a huge fireball called the Apocalypse.

Turning back to bin Laden: people mistake who he is. He is a magician, not a religious leader. Like a magician, he lives in caves and he uses magic numbers and he explains magical processes so others can carry them out. He is the Designer, not the Leader but the Explainer. He carefully explained how the only way the Muslims can free themselves of the Jews in Jerusalem is to bankrupt the countries supporting this colonization and control effort. Namely, Britain and the US. This is his main target and he knows that he can't do this alone, he needs the help of any passing dragons or mermaids. In other words, he needs to understand the ultimate goals of other powers and then apply leverage to various points in time and people as well as places and strike there so that the US does the worst possible things which will lead to bankruptcy.

For example, Santa Claus is bankrupting the West. I always have been amused by the Dark Side of Santa. He is not a nice creature, quite frankly. If one considers that Christmas is supposed to be about CHARITY. Seeing it turn into this mad orgy of self-spending so one can live in some sort of luxury and creature happiness, to see how it has warped our basic economy and destroyed our ability to pay our bills or live within our means, the Santa Christmas is a destructive force. The media, for months, was focused on 'Did we see lots of wild spending? We better see lots and lots of wild spending! We spent like fiends!'

The 'good news' will be 'people spent like crazy even though they can't afford this.' This is all connected with the death of Bhutto, of course. The US and the West has been spending like fiends ever since the beginning of the Industrial Revolution. Using mass-manufactured weapons, we overran the older Muslim and Asian empires as well as North and South American continents and all of Africa. The western empires grew very rapidly while fighting each other like devils. These wars have raged across the planet. In 1600, Islamic armies could menace Vienna but by 1800, they were on the run for they didn't have mass production like the West had.

Now, mass manufacturing is no longer a monopoly of the West. All nations can now be capitalist as well. The bin Laden revolution is actually a reactionary attempt at turning back the clock. He wants a pre-industrialized society. The impulse for this isn't trivial: it is all over the place. People love mass manufactured goods but the satanic mills are disquieting, to say the least. Factories are dangerous things. Environmentally as well as socially. A great deal of the unease of the last 200 years has come out of the industrial revolution. Also, the danger to humanity that we may destroy our planet, is directly connected to our industrial revolution and the revolution on warfare represented by the nuclear bombs.

And connected to all this is Black Magic: the collective death wishes of humans frightened about the change in star clusters rising in the East. As we saw with Naziism, horrible death cults can arise very rapidly out of the mix of religions and manias. No nation is immune to this sort of mental madness. Not least, the Jewish nation of Israel.

Bin Laden understood this. He knew that his followers would not be destroyed by US power but empowered. He knew that the death wish would bring him many suicide bombers and many believers. They will stalk the earth, waiting to strike. And time is on their side. Each day, the US does things that brings the much-desired confrontation, the one that will eliminate most humans. The US never disarmed when Russia fell, the US refused to understand what was wrong with bombing Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the two most Christian cities in Japan. The US will not understand that stealing olive trees from Palestinian farmers is a crime.

Failing in this, we fall into the magic number grid set up by bin Laden at the Gates of Death. I have said in the past, he is more dangerous dead than alive. He no longer has to use his human voice or hands to move the Wheel of Fate or turn the churn at the Vortex. His merest breath will do it for him. The only way out for the US is to renounce ownership of the Holy Lands and to reaffirm true liberalism, the parts about all humans being equal and all beliefs, private and not public. But then, Egypt wants to make the use of the Pyramids copyrighted so we will need Egyptian permission to use our dollar bills with their magical, mystical pyramids!

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[CK]

Al Qaeda killed her.
CIA killed her.
Nawaz Sharif killed her.
Condi and Zalmay killed her.
Iranian secret police killed her.
She killed herself.
Allah directed the hand, Yaweh loaded the cartridges, Krishna planned. The norns measured and cut.
She is more useful now. She just didn't realize that she would be more useful now.
Her death benefits Hillary because the US citizenry will gravitate to a STRONG FORCEFUL leader.
Her death benefits Obama because the US citizenry will realize that this is just another BUSH DIPLOMATIC FAILURE.
Her death benefits Fred Thompson because he just today pointed out that NO woman should be president.
Her death benefits CNN, FOX, MSNBC, CBS, Disney, GE.
It is AMAZING how beneficial she has become now that she is no more.
Something else happened somewhere else in the world today that is of more importance but whatever it is will not be shown because her death benefited whoever wanted to keep attention directed in one direction and not another.

[Al]

I was shocked to hear of her death. She was the US horse in the race, Sharif maybe being the best of a bad lot. Lot of people could have killed her. Unintended consequences always come back to haunt us. This will be no exception.

[Elaine Supkis]

No, this has all the earmarks of al Qaeda. Many Americans wish that there was no such thing and that all the stuff going on is fantasy or pretend.

I am puzzled by this. Normally, people love to see 'magic in action.' And in this case, it is painfully obvious to me.

Further: this death very definitely counts for something! The US wants desperately to have the Muslim parts of the planet to cease wanting radical religious goals WHILE THE CHRISTIANS AND JEWS DO THE EXACT OPPOSITE!

We are very, very radical! We give huge sums of money to radical religious nuts who want to use violence to gain power and control over holy shrines and other actions! This is why we can't laugh off all this religious stuff broiling out of the Muslim world!

If we want to see rationality, we have to give up trying to seize, control and depopulate the Holy Lands so we can use it for our own religious and ethnic purposes. I have a lot more to say about all this.

[CK]

Triple cap and then an explosion. Sounds like two different earmarks to me. Funny thing about earmarks, once they exist anyone can copy them. Not disagreeing that her assassination might be important; just not giving it the same weight you are.

[Elaine Supkis]

This is one more move in the End of Times game. Americans who are not hooked into the End of Times machine imagine this is all hysteria on my part.

I was raised by End of Times CIA people! Gads! On top of this, they wanted me to 'see' into the future and I saw "IT" which is the End, of course.

This is why I hate the economics going on. The Chinese hope we deflate quietly but I know that the people who can push the world into WWIII are very much in control of our government and our foreign policy. Bin Laden's family was close to the Bush family. He knows the Bushes and their spooky side, the Dark Side, if you will.

This is why he can exploit this and we better not ignore this. The entwining of the Bush/bin Ladens is just one part of the mess we have to change. And how can we do anything if we are naive and won't look at things from a new perspective.

Pakistan has nukes. The unravelling there affects Russia and China a great deal. Both have an interest in this. Both supported Bhutto and both are very annoyed by the rise in bombings in Pakistan. We moved the bombings from Iraq to Pakistan! I have a lot to say about all these things for we are seeing a vast sea change in the way the world is ordered and we are not the ones placing the orders.

[Chris]

How real was the Elite support for Bhutto? I remember reading a article in the Guardian where Bhutto said she was having dinner with family and friends, when out of nowhere she got a phone call from Jack Straw telling her she was back in from the cold. She was nowhere, exiled, with no hopes of returning to Pakistan then suddenly the Brits/US rolled out the red carpet for her... And Musharaf was supposed to be tickled pink he got to share power with Bhutto? It is obvious she was a pawn, not a player. But who sacrificed her, and for what?

[Recall]

Was AQ behind the previous assassination attempt on Bhutto? 10/18/2007 doesn't seem paticularly magical.

[Chris]

Ah, ofc ze Nukes. Will be interesting to see what comes out of this.

[VirginiaGentleman]

Amen CK! But what is it?

[greg]

Policy on Taliban
The Taliban took power in Kabul in September 1996. It was during Bhutto's rule that the Taliban gained prominence in Afghanistan. She viewed the Taliban as a group that could stabilize Afghanistan and enable trade access to the Central Asian republics, according to author Stephen Coll.[13] He claims that her government provided military and financial support for the Taliban, even sending a small unit of the Pakistani army into Afghanistan.

More recently, she took an anti-Taliban stance, and condemned terrorist acts committed by the Taliban and their supporters

[greg]

The assets held by Bhutto and her husband have been scrutinized. The prosecutors have alleged that their Swiss bank accounts contain £740 million.[19] Zardari also bought a neo-Tudor mansion and estate worth over £4 million in Surrey, England, UK.[20][21] The Pakistani investigations have tied other overseas properties to Zardari's family. These include a $2.5 million manor in Normandy owned by Zardari's parents, who had modest assets at the time of his marriage.[15] Bhutto denied holding substantive overseas assets.

Bhutto and her husband until recently continued to face wide-ranging charges of official corruption in connection with hundreds of millions of dollars of "commissions" on government contracts and tenders. But because of a power-sharing deal brokered in October 2007 between Bhutto and Musharraf, she and her husband had been granted amnesty

[greg]

magic is about levitating things or bending spoons!

awww crikey we go so well for so long and then comes this.......bending spoons for christ sake......i thought uri geller said that was psychic powers of the mind not the dark arts!!!!

Then Al Qaeda was hatched deep inside the darker corners of the CIA.....yet now operates independantly of the CIA and conducts covert actions against the CIA????? and then we see that the Bush family and the Bin ladens are intermeshed...yet now they are at war???? WTF????

bin ladens magic is stronger than the magic of that filthy nazi old man prescotts??????

and no one can catch the spooky man bin laden?????? FFS!!!!!

sometimes we try and look to deeply at things and miss the blatantly bloody obvious!!!

Happy Festivus!!

:)

[Elaine Supkis]

Yes, there have been previous attacks on her. She had MANY enemies. And yes, there is a lot of chaos in Pakistan and yes, everyone has played footsie with the radical Islamists. Everyone hopes to control them. They have considerable potential power.

And few people want to admit this. Everyone thinks they can manipulate this power and this is NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE. But this is why we see things unfolding in this fashion: all needles on the world compass are set towards Jerusalem.

Ordinary people wish this were not so. Many people think, we can just go about our business, ignoring this and then things happen to force this into our minds but then we wipe it out again.

This is due to a feeling of helplessness. We desperately need to chop up and destroy as much of the former Ottoman Empire as possible. Divide it all into tiny pieces. Then the forces embedded within it won't bother us and we can then ignore history.

I can't and won't ignore the future just because i hope it will look like today. This is impossible. The force that bin Laden represents is not a trivial force. How many of us can do suicide bombings, for example?

The energy of the belief systems that is fueling this fire are not small but al-consuming. The game played by the Great Gamesters is not going to end with us in control of Islamic lands.

[Elaine Supkis]

The despair of the West as it tries to consume the Ottoman Empire is clear to my own eyes. I don't see any Americans thinking that we well be defeated by these forces. We imagine that we can somehow, manipulate or control it all and it would hammer either Russia or China, for example. The thought that this force will defeat US is still not part of the picture...yet. We imagine that our invasions and alliances with despots, the money we give to Egypt or Jordan will enable us to control and manipulate the 'Arabs on the street' to a degree whereby they will be our puppets and slaves, is pure insanity.

And again: Bin Laden's strategy is for us to go bankrupt, trying to prop up an endless succession of puppets hated by Muslims. This belief is so strong, there is virtually no anti war movement left in America unlike during Vietnam.

Our control of Iraq is illusory, the Shias are playing a cat and mouse game with us which they know they will win, the instant we try to neutralize their control of Iraq, they will toss us out. The Arab kings are already negotiating with China as their future protector. And of course, in the 'stan' countries, they are carving out a new series of mini-empires that will triangulate with neighbors, being China and Russia, of course.

How will this end? Bin Laden is betting, with the US a much reduced power and Islam resurgent.

[greg]

The more you (LOL imagine that Elaine and Dubya agreeing on the enemy LOL) try to paint Bin Laden as the bogey man the more you ignore the real danger, the real enemy, within your own goverment, your own executive branch, your own police force, your own religious institutions, your own elitist banking system, your military and covert organisations....

The danger is within Elaine all the rest is noise.

http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/70.html

peace and love

Greg

[greg]

How will this end? Bin Laden is betting, with the US a much reduced power and Islam resurgent.

Is that such a bad thing????

maybe if we left the poor pricks alone they wouldnt hate us as much!

[Carlos]

FWIW Osama Bin Laden – based on a birth date of 30 July 1957 at 5 am Riyadh, Saudi Arabia – has a mental strength rating somewhere around 2 orders of magnitude higher than anyone else in my astrological files. This is according to a system originated by Wm Lilly who predicted the 1666 Great Fire of London 14 years beforehand and was tried and acquitted of setting it. There is nothing in my files of other charts and other planets even close to this huge disparity.

I published a prediction of a great apocalypse to hit the USA in September of 2005 in May of that year but no one has yet come after me.

I have always been certain there are Arabic astrological clues to the dates of significant events but have not yet followed up in these studies. The Arabs were some of the first and most competent astrologers inheriting the wisdom the Chaldeans and other ancients. Recall that our number system comes from them.

[John]

Interesting stuff as always, Elaine.

[CK]

Virginia Gentleman: I don't know, when I find out ( or more likely when it hits one of the foreign news agencies and I read it ), I will post about it. At a guess, something major in the financial policies of the major playas.
Elaine: Anyone can logically and rationally choose to become a one man guided missle. The Japanese had no problems with it, the Sri Lankans are the most ardent practitioners of it. When you have nothing, you have nothing to lose but you can take a few of the bastards with you when you check out. The horror of suicide bombing is that it is so damn cost effective, so hard to detect ahead of time, and leaves no POWs to rendition or interrogate enhancedly.
The horror of it when it comes to the USA is that so many here are obese already it will be hard to tell who is carrying a few extra pounds of fat around their waist and who is carrying a few extra pounds of C4 there. ( Now you know why suddenly there is a federally sanctioned war on obesity )!!

[Not Student]

Elaine,

Funny you should mention the Aquarius Rising. I am some sort of a mystic myself and have tried to warn people about the Aquarius rising to no effect. But the so-called End of Times will not be achieved in this era. Not the way you imagine in any case.

Traditionally, Aquarius is ruled by Saturn, which is associated with Power and Structure. However, the modern ruler, Uranus, associates with Science, Logic and Enlightenment. Also, Aquarius rule the 11th house which can be associated with humanitarian ideas and acquintences.

On the other hand, however, Saturn being the symbol of Death and Aquarius correspond to "The month of destruction" in the Babylonian Calendar does indicate some sort of trouble, but the aquarian force of power and structure + science and logic will prevail in the end.

I will be more worried if Capricorn is on the Rising.

[blues]

I guess there is dark magic, and there is bright magic. Bright magic is always subtle, and usually benign. Dark magic is not so subtle, and is never truly benign. All the Abrahamic religions are dark, despite their endless disclaimers.

I always recommend that people stay away from dark magic. But then, some may not have that option.

If these fools who are playing the strange global game are really that deep into dark magic, then they really need to be banished. But they always hide behind "religion."

[Elaine Supkis]

I was born on the cusp of the Great Trigon. And right in time for the creation of hydrogen bombs. hooray.

Bin Laden is not fictional. He is quite real. My family has been involved with the Saudi Arabians since the mid-1950s. We have been VERY CLOSE to them. VERY. Except for me, any Saudi over the age of 16 was forbidden and this was one country I was not allowed to go meddle with. My parents left me in Europe or America whenever they did business in SA.

Like the Bush family, we hobnobbed with these people. NONE of them were 'fanatical' back in 1966. Many of them were by 1976. Guess what? A certain wars over a certain bit of Middle Eastern land radicalized them increasingly over the years.

They are all CYNICAL, too! Believe it or not. They, like the Japanese, assume they will either own us or bankrupt us. Bin Laden simply added 'actively at war' with us as a third option because he says, 'I want to push this along a bit faster.' See?

The Bush interactions with all this is criminal. They are traitors. I don't run anything in America except for my tiny little bit of a mountain and forest. Bush runs the damn country. And he propped the door open for bin Laden. So he is a traitor.

On the other hand, many things on 9/11 surprised even him. But not me.

I suspect people don't want to understand Bin Laden and his appeal to a billion Muslims because the thought that we are charting a course that leads to our destruction as a power and perhaps, country, is hard to grasp.

They aren't doing this because they hate us, they have to do this to STOP us. WE are invading THEM, as some readers here point out quite correctly. And seriously, it isn't that hard to have civil relations with Muslims, I have done this in the past and see no difficulty in doing it in the future. We can't change them by stealing from them, we must be civilized. Just like with Asia. And the first step, which we should take with Africa, is to APOLOGIZE for our actions in the past. Then we can start talking about co-existence.

[CK]

A little history for the folks here:
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v29/n24/ali_01_.html
Ms Bhutto had a lot of enemies she could count on and she had Negroponte and Khalilzad and Condi as her support in Pakistand. That translates into no allies either. Just another dead kleptocrat. I wonder if the purpose behind USA diplomacy over the last 20 years has not been to create as many failed states as possible and loot them for the benefit of the BUsh family. What a list: Afghanistan, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Iraq, Yugoslavia, Albania, Macedonia, Iraq ( second times the charm ), Somalia, Lebanon, Kosovo, Venezuela ( failed ), Columbia, East Timor, Phillipines ( not successful yet ), Iran ( failed ), Pakistan ( succeeding ), USA ( succeeding ). The only bright spots in USA diplomacy have been Libya and Paraguay --- they love them some Bush down there. The three nations who the US has tried hardest to make failures of have applied a bit of judo to the attempts: Russia, North Korea, China. When you try to create a snake pit and succeed why are you surprised when the vipers bite?

[notgonnatellya]

You're completely wrong in this whole area, Elaine.

bin Laden is dead. The majority of Al Qaeda is a false flag operation, with a portion of its operators being those who are duped into believing it's a real movement.

Al Qaeda, as defined and understood by the world, had nothing to gain by killing Bhutto. Nothing. Al Qaeda as it really exists, a false flag operation, had much to gain. Much.

All the western world is fighting over Jerusalem. It is there the answers are found.

Only Russia, China, and Japan are outside the intrigue and drama being carried out among the offspring of Abraham.

Evangelical Christianity has convinced many that it occupies the catbird seat of human history, when in truth it is the dupe of those seated at the source of power.

The one that stays free of the drama being played out will be the next World Power.

Unless all the 2012 hype turns out to be true...

[greg]

doesnt matter if bi laden is dead or alive, he is a patsy just as oswald was, the eternal spoon bending boogeyman!!!!!