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stevo

Banking figures are so hard to contemplate. They are also subject to being fudged, a la foxes reporting upon the number of chickens in their care.

If the international hot money boys believe that the whole US banking system is due for a rough spell, rather than short their least favourite asset classes, they will make a grande exit, en masse. In doing so, they will need to sell lots of dollars.

The US dollar index (ICE) has fallen to some measure of support at 75. It is not yet possible to determine whether 75 will represent a Verdun-like, major turning point where dollar bears have their own posteriors handed to them, or a Maginot line, where the dollar bulls find that the Huns are coming through with all guns blazing. (No affront to the Huns is intended. I am one of those, myself.)

I like to watch a ratio of two ETFs, UUP/UDN, to help gauge the effective trend of the dollar. If the ratio breaks down from here, the US banks will find their problems to be intractable. If the ratio holds or rises, the FED will be in a process of pulling another rabbit out of its battered hat.

Regards.

PW

What do you think of this comment?

http://wallstreetexaminer.com/?p=2280#comment-78462

Are those that say The Fed is owned by Roths nuts?

CT

I need to admit that my own understanding of this jargon is very, very limited. But, here's what occurred to me, based on my understanding of what M1, and SOMA means - did the Fed intentionally reduce the real money supply, and replace it with the TAF? As a way of protecting against a mass flood of overseas dollars returning home suddenly and without notice? In my view, the TAF would be a stop-gap way of rolling over liquidity from one day to the next, allowing more fine-tuned adjustment of actual liquidity in play than standard tools. Anyone care to comment on that?

Elaine Meinel Supkis

Good questions, CT! I hope to find someone somewhere online who can answer those questions. I, too, am just trying desperately to figure things out. We must do this to survive.

About the Rothschilds: yes, they are a common thread in international banking. Personal relations very much matter in banking.

RobertoG

"SOLD OUT!!!!".... TRICLE DOWN HEARSAY. Mainstream amerikana KNOWS now that they've been sold down the river by the Fed Reserve mafioso... despite the best efforts of the SOMA media-drug conglomerates to pacify the masses. There's a groundswell of populism growing, manifested in burgeoning public events nationwide, that substantiate the "resistance" to the spoon fed efforts to continue the status quo. It's seems all over but the crying for these morons who can't face theat they've LOST the capitalistic game they fomented (and China-Russia wealth is winning). This AWAKENING of the populace is heartening and will, hopefully, defeat the best efforts to sneak in the police state. Wouldn't it be fun to see the arrogance of the supposed MENSA contemptuous elite is proven ineffectual? Maybe excessively optimistic but..... maybe the biddha had it right bud!!! Misery stems from attachment.

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PW & EMS

I refer you to this explanation of Federal Reserve ownership :

http://www.themoneymasters.com/faqs.htm#q1

PW, the statement from that blog was promptly attacked by Lee Adler.

per Ron Paul the Federal Reserve has never been audited. how much is the 6% annual dividend equal to? Mr. Adler obfuscates exactly in the manner which the money masters outlines.

no expert, just watching.

Elaine Supkis

There are no real controls over the Fed. They are the top wizards who wave many wands and if the wand breaks, they whittle a new one as we just saw the last three months. But each wand they make is broken on the rocks of economic reality.

DeVaul

As far as I can tell, the US is formally bankrupt, although others use the term "technically bankrupt" when writing about it.

I also read somewhere that the Chinese banking system (and probably the Soviet one) was insolvent for many years but they managed to keep it afloat until they could reform it or whatever.

I wonder if ours can be kept alive in this fashion until it is reformed or whatever the Chinese did to save theirs or if the problems are just too intractable.

For one thing, our national debt loads are extraordinary even by communist totalitarian state standards and I do seem to know that about 5 banks are exposed to 98% of the 500 trillion derivatives timebomb. They are completely insolvent but also the main players in the banking system.

I know the bankers are trying to keep the system alive until they can off-load their debts onto us, but will they succeed given the enormity of the problem? I don't know.

Personally, I think the 5 insolvent banks should go belly-up, but I doubt it will happen because they are part of our government now, if not the government itself. So, my fear is that they will be saved at the expense of everyone else.

Elaine Meinel Supkis

DeVaul, Russia dealt with this by going bankrupt. Millions of Russians suffered horribly.

China went bankrupt in 1948. Since then, no. But millions of Chinese did starve to death with the Great Leap to Hell, for example, as well as the Cultural Death Revolution. But since 1980, they have been very, very careful. Considering all things.

DeVaul

Actually, I was referring to the time period after the Cultural Revolution. I believe that a Chinese official stated that their banks were insolvent, but they propped up the system somehow until I gess they went on their export binge. I cannot remember where I read this, but it was a Chinese official who said it and he also stated that the banks were insolvent for many years and the government knew it.

Of course, they have a different system from ours and perhaps that is how they kept it all mum until they could get back into the black. Still, it was interesting to read something like that from a Chinese official.

Elaine Meinel Supkis

Oh, it was much worse than that. MONEY DISAPPEARED.

When the Chinese officials came to live with me in the very early 80's, around 1983, they got everything via government offices. They thought a $20 a week stipend was fabulous.

Boy, that didn't last long.

First day in my big house: 'So. Government give you BIG house.'

Me: 'No! I bought this with my own money. Money I earned working in New York City.'

We went on and on with me explaining how I used 'money' to buy things. To prove this to them, they went with me to work. They watched me haggle over money. They went to the banks with me. I explained the American Express card I used. I had to teach them about how to use money.

Then they wanted to MAKE money. HAHAHA. We had tons of fun on that one. They took to it like ducks to water. Rapidly, they began to make money. Then they began to set up their private import companies. It was very fascinating. One of them ended up running the major shipping out of Shanghai.

Elaine Meinel Supkis

But the central bank never went bankrupt, by the way. It sat on the money like a dragon on an egg. Russia, on the other hand, was looted.

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Guimapaurry

I'm new here, just wanted to say hello and introduce myself.

Elaine Meinel Supkis

Well, come to the threads that are more recent and people will say hello, Guimapaurry.

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