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Greg Q

Elaine...BRAVO!!!!

When I was a kid (growing up in northern NJ) my father bought our family a summer cabin near Lake George. Not too far from you. Many a summer was spent cutting trees to clear space for garages, boat shelters and to prepare firewood for campfires and heat when we would go up for weekends during off seasons.

I hated every minute of that back-breaking work at the time...but you know...enjoying those campfires and making chairs from branches and and tables from knotty stumps are some of my most cherished memories.

Heck my father even bought a tractor like yours to clear the land...what a ball I had push dirt and trees around on that thing!!!

Thanks for taking me down memory lane...You need to send this blog to George Bush, Bernanke, Paulson, et al. Those "A-Holes" need to do some honest work for a change. Don't ya think?

Greg Q

Elaine...BRAVO!!!!

When I was a kid (growing up in northern NJ) my father bought our family a summer cabin near Lake George. Not too far from you. Many a summer was spent cutting trees to clear space for garages, boat shelters and to prepare firewood for campfires and heat when we would go up for weekends during off seasons.

I hated every minute of that back-breaking work at the time...but you know...enjoying those campfires and making chairs from branches and and tables from knotty stumps are some of my most cherished memories.

Heck my father even bought a tractor like yours to clear the land...what a ball I had push dirt and trees around on that thing!!!

Thanks for taking me down memory lane...You need to send this blog to George Bush, Bernanke, Paulson, et al. Those "A-Holes" need to do some honest work for a change. Don't ya think?

Gary W

Pol Pot and his mates tried sending people into the fields to plough, dig & harvest. That didn't work out so well. Not that you don't, as ever, have a good point, but there must be a bit more to it than getting tired & dirty.

Elaine Supkis

Pol Pot was all about slavery. Slaves gain nothing from back breaking labor. This is the definition of slavery.

meadows

I'm doing the hardest work of my life right now, helping my mom die at home. It is almost completely psychological work. My brother and sister are helping, we're a team.

Mom is in denial that her narcotics are killing not just her pain but her ability to eat as well. So, she'll starve herself.... a choice many very ill people make though in her case, an non-concious one.

Work can be a struggle both pleasureable and painful and both physical and psychological.

My brother has dug clams for a living in Maine for 30 years, he is bent over from all that stoop labor but his depression and migraines are the hardest work is digging into, trying to get to the bottom of his embedded pain.

Physical suffering and pain and the "work" associated with it are hard, very hard.... but the emotional suffering from fear is the worst.

I think what Elaine is saying is that the fear and denial of the truth (avoidance of the hard work) keeps us from facing the facts, postponing what will be far more suffering down the road if we don't roll up our sleeves and dig up those old impediments.

Elaine Meinel Supkis

I got arthritis from a lifetime of honest labor. This is the price we pay for living.

And yes, hard work is hard on the body. But everyone, rich or poor, eventually has to go through the Gates of Death. And much of our lives should be arranged so we keep that in mind.

This is the basis of all religions, by the way.

John East

Excellent post, Elaine.

I visit here to keep abreast of the collapse of the world financial system, and instead I learn how to dig up a tree stump. However, this new knowledge is much appreciated, and it was an interesting read.

If things continue to spiral down, practical things like this will be worth knowing, and if things are even worse than we anticipate, maybe you can show us all how to build an underground bunker.

Elaine Meinel Supkis

Excavation work can be fun. But my shoulders now feel the pain when the digging is hard. A hazard for anyone who does construction work for too long.

JSmith

"This takes some planning and care. "

And a D-8. Wrap your cable around it a couple of times, winch it up tight, and drag it right on out of there!

(You might have to turn around and run into it a couple of times, but it'll come out.)

JSmith

"This takes some planning and care. "

And a D-8. Wrap your cable around it a couple of times, winch it up tight, and drag it right on out of there!

(You might have to turn around and run into it a couple of times, but it'll come out.)

Alex

Elaine,

I whole-heartedly agree with the Message, of enlightenment via work. That was after-all the message of the Quakers, that god was to be known via the sweat of the brow... which I interpret as the clearing of the mind that stems from focused effort, and filtering-away of all that does not provision the task-at-hand.

I similarly to you, removed several tree stumps in my yard a few years ago... I had no trackor though... just a shovel and a pick... Took a month to finish the task, bit by bit, root-by-root, pursuing the belief that any task can be conquered if only one can identify that Underlying Reality that ties it all together... the Roots in this case, which need severing.

The Romans knew this as well, per their saying of "Divide and Conquer"... meaning use true knowledge (roots' location) to solve the task (remove stump)

Elaine Meinel Supkis

I have done many a tree stump without mechanical tools. Pick axe and axe.

Dug the foundation of my house by hand, with my son.

Dutch

Want to remove another stump? How about shitcanning LIFETIME appointments on the Supreme Court! That would help out on the flood of lawsuits that are coming. HA!

hardrock

Great little story Elaine. You've tied it in to some very important 'life lessons' as well. You are just like me, once you've decided to do something quitting is out of the question. Pain and discomfort just goes with the task at hand. It is the only way to gain real satisfaction of a job well done....or a life lived well....you seem to have accomplished both and the folks out 'here' who hear what you say are benefited by your wit and wisdom. Like you say, when working hard physically one tends to think more clearly about other things. The 'back half' of the brain kinda works in a different way.

PS: I have a tractor just like yours, only a little smaller. I've dug a number of stumps out with it and it really is a jolting and troublesome job....but like you say...sure as hell beats getting em' out with a pick, shovel and axe and a team of horses as my Dad, brothers and I did for years on our farm back in the 50's. Yes, we used dynamite quite a bit....but nowadays you would have one helluva time getting your hands on it without miles and miles of red tape and a laser light up your keister.

Elaine Meinel Supkis

Yes, I remember how easy it all was in the fifties and sixties to get dynamite. They sold it at the local farm goods store. We used to delight in blowing big boulders up, for example.

GK

Hi Elaine, I thought you might get a good laugh out of this article that includes a reference to a 'philosophical backhoe operator. ;-)

http://www.counterpunch.org/bageant04032008.html
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I am not kidding when I say rage fatigue victims have fallen into an ongoing mid-level depression. (Looks to me like the whole country has, but then I'm no mental health expert.) The less depressed victims can be found lurking near the edges of the Obama cult, consoling themselves that a soothing and/or charismatic orator is better than nothing.

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And like whoever else wins the presidency, Obama can never acknowledge any significant truth, such as that the nation is waaaaay beyond being just broke, and is even a net debtor nation to Mexico, or that the greatest touch-me-not in the U.S. political flower garden, the "American lifestyle," is toast. But then, we really do not expect political truth, but rather entertainment in a system where, as Frank Zappa said, politics is merely "the entertainment branch of industry."

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As my late friend Virgil the philosophical backhoe operator summed it up: "If we fucked everything up so bad tryin' to do our best, maybe we oughtta just leave'er be for a while. Quit thinking about it so much."


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