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JSmith

"NYT Has Big Editorial Calling For Palestine To SURRENDER"

Well... resistance has worked out so well for them...

"During all bad economic times, any ethnic or religious minority who has lots of money is looted."

So... just what does that have to do with the Pals?

"The reason the Palestinian citizens of the Holy Land must 'accommodate' is because..."

... their chances of reclaiming "the land from the river to the sea" are exactly zero.

"The persecution of religious minorities for imperialist agendas is very old."

News Flash: The Pals aren't a religious minority in the Mideast!

"As Mao said, 'Power grows out of the barrel of the gun...and revolutionaries swim in the sea of the People.' "

So what do you suggest? That the Pals redouble their efforts to expel the Zionist invader? (Good luck with THAT...)

Old Ari

The Acadians refused to accept the fact that France had abandoned them, and continued to make trouble, so they were shipped off to the other french part of NA. Some eventually returned.

Elaine Meinel Supkis

And what about all the Irish and Scots shipped out so viciously? Heh! Even in the last 50 years, Irish here were giving money to Irish terrorists blowing up stuff in London.

Al

You can't really judge the reality of a conquered people unless you are one yourself. Indians fought even when it was hopeless. Some of us still fight today. If it was just a matter of surrender and then your people could adapt and be treated with honor most of us would have done so long ago. Pride made us fight. Same with the Palestinians. The odds are hopeless but they have the balls and pride to fight against what may be hopeless odds. Mr Smith is flippant and says "resistance has worked so well for them". I say God bless them, may He give them strength, nakaha un anpetu owihanke.

JSmith

"Even in the last 50 years, Irish here were giving money to Irish terrorists blowing up stuff in London."

It would appear that the Irish have, in fact, finally bagged it. For the time being.

"Indians fought even when it was hopeless. Some of us still fight today."

Fighting with casinos, you mean? Taking the white man's money with house odds isn't a bad strategy, actually: it beats the shit out of suicide-bombing.

And on that note...

"The odds are hopeless but they have the balls and pride to fight against what may be hopeless odds."

You know, it's not so much the fighting against the hopeless odds I'm critizing as much as it is the strategy and tactics. After 60 years of being bottled up in Gaza and the West Bank... perhaps it's time for the Pals to rethink the Master Battle Plan. Because the current one just isn't working out very well.

Elaine Meinel Supkis

There is no way they can fight off the American/British and other empires attacking them! This is the whole problem. The only solution is a final solution: Nazi annihilation.

And this is the plan the Jews have hatched in the top levels! The government eradicating the Palestinians is planning to destroy them...FOREVER.


And the only people who can stop this grave crime is you and me, Smith. WE ARE PAYING FOR THIS. And we will reap the whirlwind from this. Ask bin Laden.

Al

The US public can't stop mowing their lawns and watching American Idol long enough to understand the rage that Israeli terror against Palestine causes in the civilized (non-USA)world. I'm not directing this towards Mr/Ms Smith, who seems to grasp the basics here. It's the combination of the indifferent stupidity of our public and the indifferent malevolence of the elected leaders. Hizbuallah's victory over the Jews, Palestinian's steadfast support of their only alternative in Hamas, Sadr's rising popularity and burgeoning statesmanship in Iraq-there is a change in the Muslim world which the Christian US and Israeli Jew cannot or will not see. Another massive Jew incursion into the territories may be catastrophic. I see a desperation among the people which was not there before, at least not so close to the surface.

Elaine Meinel Supkis

In the fires of despair rises the Phoenix. And they all know this. They know the oil royals are all corrupt and there goes bin Laden, riding on his white horse, to Mecca!


It is inevitable in the end. If anyone thinks the teeming masses of the Muslim world will vanish, is either nuts or racist.

JSmith

"There is no way they can fight off the American/British and other empires attacking them! This is the whole problem..."

Yeah, I know. That's what I said earlier. So far, so good.

"The only solution is a final solution: Nazi annihilation."

Suddenly... you're wrong. Another solution would be for the Pals to cut bait, work out some kind of a 2-state solution, and make the best they can out of what they have.

I saw an article recently which noted that the Palestinian Authority has soaked up more aid money per capita than Europe got out of the Marshall Plan. That's a lot of international aid. And what do they have to show for it besides some squalid cities? If they put as much energy into building a society as they do hating the Jews, things would be just fine.

But hating the Jwes is so much more fun for them, or something...

Al

If the Jews negotiated in good faith a two-state solution would have happened long ago. the situation is analogous to a bait and switch operation in that what is promised will NEVER be granted.

As far as the per capita aid being equivalent to the Marshall Plan $ for Europe, that really seems doubtful. Maybe the 1945 amount in 2007 dollars or some such trick. The biggies for US aid are Israel, Egypt and Colombia. Don't know how far down Palestine is but it's gotta be hella far down the list. That said, the PA is very corrupt which explains even secular Palestinians and Christians voting Hamas. So whatever $ goes to the PA trickles down about as well as bushes tax cuts trickled down to the working class people.

JSmith

"As far as the per capita aid being equivalent to the Marshall Plan $ for Europe, that really seems doubtful. Maybe the 1945 amount in 2007 dollars or some such trick."

Total per capita, 1993-present, inclusive of all international aid.

Al

do you happen to have a link or source to the aid thing ? It still doesn't add up, in my mind. Most countries don't provide aid unless there's something in it for them. The occupied territories don't have any resources. The biggest and most aggressive bloc in the world (US/UK/Israel)oppose them. Most of the Arab regimes give lip service but that's it.

DeVaul

Smith also forgot(?) to mention that during the Marshall Plan, there was no rogue state flattening all the infrastructure in the region every 5 to 10 years with fighter jets and artillery, thus requiring that everything be rebuilt at great cost or left in ruins and the money used for some other purpose.

Al

Hello DeVaul, that's a good point I hadn't thought of. Plus no rogue state preventing the flow of that aid.

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