US Government Secret Anthrax Assassin Commits Suicide

August 1, 2008

Elaine Meinel Supkis

The FBI finally was able to close in on the real anthrax killer. A senior anthrax warfare researcher used his diabolical skills to egg on changes to the Constitution and to assist the ruling elites to impose more draconian rules over the rest of us. But it was from within the government itself that the dangers lie, as always! This is part of the paradox of 'defense' when it always ends up endangering us rather than protecting us. The newly imposed police state which was launched because of US foreign policy, a refusal to disarm at the end of the Cold War, our lust for controlling third world commodity markets and our government's desire to annihilate all 'enemies' has, as expected, totally backfired on the American People as well as all Humanity.

Anthrax Scientist Commits Suicide

The scientist, Bruce E. Ivins, 62, who worked for the past 18 years at the government's biodefense labs at Fort Detrick, Md., had been told about the impending prosecution, the Los Angeles Times reported for Friday editions. The laboratory has been at the center of the FBI's investigation of the anthrax attacks, which killed five people.

Ivins died Tuesday at Frederick Memorial Hospital in Maryland. The Times, quoting an unidentified colleague, said the scientist had taken a massive dose of a prescription Tylenol mixed with codeine.

First question here: this guy was a MASS MURDERER! And the FBI didn't arrest him???? They told him, he would be prosecuted and then LEFT???? Ah! This is the 'dog that didn't bark' sort of story, eh? He is left alone with enough drugs to end this story without a trial. And he lunges for it and finishes it so he won't appear on the witness stand for a grilling about why he decided to commit these murders.........and here is today's story of darkness and dire doings.....

The first 5 years of the anthrax investigation was poorly run. Ideologues within the FBI were unwilling to go after the secret military/industrial complex where it was obvious, the anthrax assassin was hiding. Indeed, the first year of the anthrax investigation was solely focused on pinning the anthrax tail on the Iraqi, Iranian or North Korean donkeys. Preferably, all three at once.

I knew right off the bat, the first day of the anthrax terror, that the person doing it was probably from the spooky side of the CIA/NSA/DARPA parts of our government. The US spook community has always been riven by the concept of secret assassinations. Enlightened people within the CIA etc want to use smart diplomacy coupled with obvious spying to learn what others are doing. While on the other hand, people hired to be part of this occult system wish to IMITATE our 'enemies'. This conflict is reflected at the top of the government. People who are voted into office come along with this same ugly frame of mind: to exploit the dark arts of the 'enemy' and to imitate and mirror them.

All of this is framed in a dark/light spiritual universe. Everyone wishes to think they are 'angels' but in reality, they turn, bit by bit, into devils. Within the religious framework of these 'good/evil' systems lies this whole problem: the 'good guys' are often every bit as devilish and evil as the 'bad guys'. Gods that are supposed to love us also want to slay all humanity and then send the vast majority to some sort of incarnation of 'hell', for example. Since not only do many religious systems have embedded within their dark hearts, this concept of the loving god being very nasty, it seems to me to be a very hard-wired part of the human mind.

This is how Nazis could commit hideous crimes with clear minds. Or US interrogators at Gitmo torturing a 15 year old boy. The Spanish Inquisition could merrily torment innocent people while believing they were expressing the proper instrumentation of their loving god. Pilgrims in Boston brutally murdered neighbors while feeling perfectly moral and upright, nay, it doubled their belief they were moral and upright! This torture and murder was confirmation of their holy rightness.

The discovery that yes, the US government itself harbored, trained, enabled and paid the anthrax assassin as he used his own sense of moral rightness to attack the government itself, does not astonish me. There are many darker forces at work here. Some of which I cannot prove since there is no 'proof' but it all springs from the occult magical systems the rulers use and believe in. For they are not just Christians and Jews, many of them also practice the occult arts. They literally use magic numbers, magic circles, magic gatherings to request the demons in the Outer Darkness assist them in gaining temporal powers.

This queer thread ties together many astonishing things within our 'spook' side of the government. All good occultists dream of joining top secret, murderous programs. The rocket programs launched just before WWII was launched by occultists, just for example. All this lies terribly close to my own life, I was born inside this occult/secret government system! I grew up inside it.

Most children of the people running this bizarre nightmare system were locked firmly outside. They had no inkling what was going on. The spiritual side was totally hidden from view. As some select members grew up like say, the Bush children, they were initiated into this system. Bush Jr. grew up showing some very astonishingly cruel animal-torture behaviors, for example. So he was bundled up and sent to Yale to express them even better at the Skull and Bones crypt. He cheerfully did this, branding his underlings, just for example. He was utterly incapable of learning anything there except for one lesson: how to tap into the occult magic stream from Geronimo's skull.

Back to the anthrax assassin: the secret murder programs run by our government tends to not attract people who want peace and love. Indeed, the winnowing system tends towards right wing bastards seeking global domination powers and who cheerfully will work on programs designed to figure out sneaky ways of killing the vast majority of humanity. I know this from my own family. People who are bitter, angry and frustrated and who want Jesus to come and murder everyone, got hired by the government and got secret clearances. Periodically, I would hassle the Secret Service to investigate the motives of family members. But political agents including the President of the USA and this includes Clinton, would thwart me. So I have to watch, in horror, as people who I know will harm humanity, work away, deep inside the spook side of our government.

The tendency to attract and promote psychotic, psychopathic, antisocial people is a huge problem! Our entire system is filled with these sorts of cold-blooded people. Just as our economic system is filled with the same people who just want more money for themselves and don't care if this destroys our nation, these people end up focused mainly on their own darker schemes. There is A LOT OF FREELANCING going on in the spook community! Smart, demonic individuals are hired knowing full well, they will do as they wish and won't wait for government orders. They get their orders from the aether. Literally!

Anthrax mystery began in Boca Raton with dying photo editor

Bob Stevens, a 63-year-old photo editor at the tabloid publisher's Boca Raton offices, was the first fatal victim of the mystery mailings.

Stevens, who lived in suburban Lantana, began feeling ill Sept. 27 and slipped into a coma before doctors could tell him what had sent him to the hospital. He died Oct. 5. Investigators later found anthrax spores on his work keyboard.

Even as the building was being sealed more AMI employees fell ill, including mailroom worker Ernesto Blanco.

By Oct. 15, Congress and media giants ABC and NBC all found evidence that anthrax had been mailed to their offices as well.

Stevens' wife, Maureen, sued the federal government in 2003, alleging that security lapses at an Army research facility led to her husband being exposed.

The clue as to who the assassin was lay in the nature of the very first victim: the photo editor of the Sun, a gossip rag. He was given the Jenna drunk photos and published them. All the Bushes were outraged. They were deep in the middle of a stupid campaign about how they were superior parents and could guide the rest of us crummy parents in raising brats like their darling daughters. Who were propaganda tools with the media owners deliberately participating in many lies and concealing the obvious deranged lives of these typical modern ruling class teens. We all tend to go through this 'Whore of Babylon' phase when young. This is the whole 'goddess' business and an important learning curve as we gain sexual skills while messing around in classic fashion of the Meanads. Drunk, beautiful young women who rip apart anyone in their paths.

When the Sun published these photos, the left wing online erupted into merriment and mockery. We had tremendous fun with the photos and this was tremendously embarrassing to the drunken sots within the Bush clan. Bush Sr. spoke darkly about how the Sun would be punished and how everyone else better watch out or they might also be punished. On the left, we took note of this growl about revenge and danger. I suggested the Sun watch out for spook activity. The Bushes controlled Florida at that time and this paper was in Florida. The city where it was housed is in a region with more spook CIA/DARPA retirees per square mile than any other region. It is not a surprise to me that the 9/11 plot as well as the first anthrax attack were within a few miles of each other. The Bushes exploited this to drive forwards the suggestion that they were connected but not by proximity to spooks within our government but to Saddam! Who had absolutely nothing to do with either.

U.S. to pay $2.8 million to settle anthrax lawsuit

The U.S. Justice Department said on Friday it would pay former Army scientist Steven Hatfill over $2.8 million to settle his lawsuit accusing officials of violating his privacy rights by talking to the media and unfairly implicating him in anthrax attacks in 2001.

Hatfill, a bioterrorism expert who formerly worked at the Army Medical Institute of Infectious Disease at Fort Detrick in Maryland, has denied any involvement in the mailings of the anthrax-laced letters that killed five people weeks after the September 11 hijacked plane attacks.

In 2002, federal law enforcement officials, including Attorney General John Ashcroft, called Hatfill a "person of interest" in connection with the investigation into the anthrax attacks. Hatfill then sued various Justice Department officials, including Ashcroft.

When the anthrax assassin went to work, so did the web 'investigators'. They quickly latched onto Hatfill. Online as well as within the FBI, he was hounded by all and then some. This poor man was nearly driven to suicide because of this. A word of warning to all 'investigators': it is not easy to do this sort of thing and in doing it, it is easy to be deluded. It is very easy to slip into multiple illusions of seeing secrets when all one is seeing is a distorted image created in the mind. Just like a bunch of people this week went blind staring into the sun to see a Mary Mother of God illusion in India. They were told, a magical statue was shedding tears [a common delusion of thinking since it is merely moisture sweating off of stone in summer] and if you look into the sun, you can see a goddess! On CNN, there was this goofy story about a kitten with the face of Jesus on its fur. Only there was no face. Just three semi-concentric rings. But in a fuzzy photograph, it sort of looked like the iconic depiction of Jesus if you squint your eyes hard.

Poor Hatfill was harried and harassed. His career collapsed, unable to get work, feared by his neighbors, this poor man was nearly driven to suicide. His lawyers and wife had to struggle hard to save him from destruction. I think he is owed more than several million. He is owed an apology from the President himself who is silent about all this. This is because of queer stuff I keep talking about but cannot prove. Namely, this was the Will of the President: that the photo editor of the Sun be murdered, that the people who defied him in the Senate be killed, that the American people, screaming in fear, would allow him to rip apart the Constitution and that he could also blame future victims like Saddam for all this mayhem created by his own minions.

How does black magic work? I would suggest, the business of 'chanting' is a powerful tool used by these magicians. How is that, people ask? Well....as Hitler, a satanic character realized early on, standing in circles, chanting to each other, is good for bonding but doesn't do much in the real world. BUT CHANTING OVER THE AIRWAVES ON THE NEW RADIO SYSTEM IS WONDERFUL MAGIC! Early on, it was discovered that if the government or those who own and control the airwaves simply repeat the same words over and over again, it gets lodged in people's minds. Like some sort of worm crawling thorough computers to take over systems, these key code phrases and single words, put into motion very cleverly, will take up residence in human minds and then force them into new directions and in especial nastiness, can turn them into killing robots that go off and do crimes on behalf of the people broadcasting hate and poison.

We saw this recently in the news: a man addicted to right wing hate speech and inspired by his sick beliefs in a murderous god and his murderous son, went out to murder 'not so good Christians'. He was unthinking and unreal as he robotically shot innocent people dead. The US media system is totally skewed these days. Online, I watched over the years as the right wing propagandized itself into becoming a torture/killing machine perfect for the overlords to use to terrorize all the rest of us.

There are many, many people who are frightened of saying or doing anything at this point because the multi-level propaganda system has so warped our fellow Americans, we worry they will up and murder us in a killing spree from above. This system has embedded within it, another system of antigovernment propaganda that also is ratcheting up the anger and terror.

As economic conditions deteriorate, this side will push people into committing crimes. I remember the left during the Vietnam War era: same process. People egged each other into increasingly radicalized, crazy beliefs backed by a desire to kill people. Online, I see supposed articles that 'analyze' things except the writers call fellow citizens 'sheeple' all the time. Like the anthrax killer who probably read a lot of right wing propaganda online, this use changes fellow citizens from humans we must protect into ANIMALS TO BE SLAUGHTERED.

Back to the magic: the ruling elites cynically use these forces to increase their powers. When Waco happened, DARPA was brought in to subdue the End of Times Christians who were very murderous, themselves. And like so many Christian cults, enjoying bizarre sex with children, etc [gads, these things are very real, I was raped when only 5 years old!]---the Branch Davidians practiced black magic. DARPA came in with really serious black magic. They waited for the full moon to rise and then broadcast the screams of rabbits being murdered. They told Clinton, this would scare the magicians and their poor children and drive them out of their small fortress.

This was a lie, of course. Satanic songs were played. The Davidians were furious and did counter spells. This all set the stage for the mass murder of the innocent children. The black ops people went to the Attorney General, a woman, and told her, they had to rescue the children by attacking the childrern's section with tanks. She was told they would be tortured if this didn't happen so she assented.

I watched this on TV and was horrified. I contacted the Attorney General's office to inform her, she was using black magic and should stop them. I will note here that NON of the top religious leaders including the Pope, tried to stop this or even talked about this! A massive black magic spell to open a Portal to the Outer Darkness was underway and everyone thought this was perfectly sane.

After the Waco horror, out of our own military came the next assassins who blew up the OKC Federal building. I called the FBI a week before to warn them about the impending attack [all this stuff always ends up disturbing my own night life in the Dream World].

Within less than one minute of the explosion, the FBI was screaming at me on the phone. They know I am a psychic and knew that I had an idea of who did what in this case. As TV propagandists desperately tried to pin the blame on the OKC bombing on Saddam and Iran, I said, 'Look for someone who is a demolition expert in the military.'

After this, when Bush Jr was running for President, he suddenly bought land just outside of Waco and which bordered the property where this massive killing happened. Today, he is selling this place and leaving, he doesn't need it anymore. I knew the minute he bought it, he wanted proximity to this site so he could do his rituals better. I can't prove this, it just ties into the matter of Geronimo's skull and the fact that the Bushes got tangled with McCain over the issue of returning this to the Apache tribe. McCain gave the tribe a child's skull which they returned to him and which he handed back to the Bushes and this was in the news, I was involved in this business on behalf of the Apaches.

And then the media never talked about this, the skull of Geronimo was never returned and now that Bush is leaving his power lode in Washington, he has no more need for his Waco ranch or even Geronimo's skull. He is now walking away from his business with the Outer Darkness.

Back to the anthrax assassin: the Bushes wanted certain people dead or terrorized. They also needed something to pin on Saddam. Online, there was endless egging on of unstable people to assassinate the left and punish the Sun. Radio shows by right wingers were shouting nonstop about how liberals were nonhuman and traitors. And should be punished. The right wing was shouting about how the Senate had to be turned to Bush's Will and disciplined. There was a lot of this sort of egging on of right wingers to kill. The anthrax killer listened to all this talk including similar talk from Bush and his gang. They made it totally clear, the last 25% of Americans who refused to follow them off the cliff after 9/11 should be eliminated or tormented into silence and compliance with the War on Terror.

So without obvious authorization, the anthrax assassin volunteered to do the dirty work. Alas, he killed himself. I would love to know how deep this 'self-assigned' work really was. The fact that Bush and Cheney showed great distaste about talking about the anthrax killer after it was obvious to everyone, he sprang out of the occult side of our military. The news media also ceased to talk about this matter. The dead were never mentioned. The fact of the anthrax attacks were ignored. Anniversaries of this attack were silent.

The magic of communications and how it warps people is what propaganda and leadership is all about. The anthrax killer greatly pleased the rulers. They loved him. They didn't want him caught. They hoped he would get away with this crime. But the necessity to also investigate has led us to this present pass: the anthrax assassin, killing himself rather than tell the truth. Instead of letting us understand step by step, how he was convinced to kill the people he targeted, especially the photo editor of the Sun, this is very important. And who did he directly communicate with while engineering this crime? Who looked the other way? Who encouraged his passions?

Now, all closed to us. I strongly feel the best tool to use against this sort of business is rationality. Examining reality and understanding the interior parts of the human mind, we can pluck the strings of the great instrument that is being played by others. The fact is, many of our ruling elites love black magic. This is why the Pope wants to do 'exorcisms' and why his minion, who sought to argue with me about this, ran off screaming when I began to debate the outline, qualities and rules of the Outer Darkness. The Jesus I used in those little fables I told, frightened him. Another right wing Christian questioned me on the phone about exorcisms. He ended up screaming about how he wants to ship all citizens of African origin back to Africa, how he also wanted to murder mothers who had abortions, etc. He was quite a demonic person. And believed, like the demonic Pope, he was divine.

The anthrax murderer thought he was an angel when he was really a demon. Rather than fix the horror he created which was to egg Congress into passing the Patriot Act unread, he kills himself! As for the Patriot Act: it was written by right wingers who hate freedom and the concept of America, long, long before the anthrax attacker was unleashed. The criminal minds which created this document rule us today. Chertoff, the dual citizen of Israel who runs our entire security system is never in the news. Unlike Ridge before him, he is utterly occult in all senses of the word. He is like a black widow sitting in the middle of a web. HE WANTS A TERROR ATTACK BEFORE THE ELECTION. And since he can egg on others into doing this, he will. And already, we learn that the Pentagon actually discussed dressing up soldiers as Iranians and having American occult black ops guys attack and kill Americans....OH MY GOD.

I hate these people! I pray that they be thwarted in their schemes! And McCain: he screwed me over twice. Once, about Geronimo's skull and again over the issue of forcing Bush to release all his military records! And he knows this. Bush said, 'Protect me and you will be the next candidate for President'. And the deal was made. The ONLY way McCain can win is if he prays some black ops person attacks America. And the dark lords of the media who want war with Iran are enabling him in this. They harp on how this uncertain, ill-tempered, dying man is our protector. He is...a demonic tool. And I am so sad about his choices. I warned him.

He collects Kachina dolls. They are the Gods of the natives of the Southwest. I wrote to him, 'The eyes of the Katchinas watch your every move. They haunt the edges of your dreams. If you dream of power, they will be your judges.'

But no one listens to me.

By the way, I was very deeply involved in the Hatfield business. Jim was the guy who wrote 'Fortunate Son' and then was ravaged by the media after Karl Rove, who fed Hatfield all the bad information about the Bush Jr. cocaine arrest, the AWOL business, etc, told the press that Jim was a criminal. So the book was literally burned. I went to Hatfield and begged him to republish it. He did. We were in constant communication after that. He discussed his articles about Osama bin Laden and his connection with the Bush clan right before the FBI went to him and told him they were going to arrest him again. He was not arrested BUT LEFT ALONE. That morning, I called him and begged him to come stay at my home for protection. He wanted to continue his book tour. That night, he committed suicide.

I have very good reason to believe, they told him his family would benefit if he killed himself rather than have a very loud public trial. So I must add here that the FBI didn't arrest the anthrax assassin. They gave him time to kill himself. This has several functions: NO TRIAL. No examination of if he was ordered or egged into this by the Bush clan. Nothing. In return, the guy's family will be left alone and he will never be mentioned again by the mass media.

The forms of 'suicide' both men took are identical and the same as Rommel's suicide when ordered by Hitler.

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[Ralph]

Dear Elaine,
Do you know anything about Max Heindel? If so, could you tell me? Thanks

[Elaine Meinel Supkis]

I have no truck with any occult groups, belief systems or people. Indeed, they usually recoil in horror when I show up or interact with any such groups or people.

This is due to my own harsh side. Humans are desperate for some astral creature to love and protect them no matter what. So they create these entities in their own minds. The idea that this is all a mirror is repugnant to most people. I am very clear that my vision of Pegasus is entirely due to the fact that this was my favorite part of the design at Yerkes Observatory. I loved looking at that particular part when only very young. So, in my own agony, when I needed to have some sort of outside force to help me, this is what I 'saw.'

We all see what we need to see. People who have 'visions' help others who can't have them. So the iconography we create is passed to others. But these are all mirrors, not things we can grasp.

On the other hand, there are 'cosmic forces' at work and I call this the 'Outer Darkness' because of its chaotic and hard to grasp nature. It is nearly impossible to understand, we just get some glimpses of it, thank goodness.

But it is really 'deep human desires of murderous or lusting' that runs deep and hard here. It is basically, what Freud called 'The ID'. The Id, Ego and Superego were kabbalist ideas which Freud used as a psychological tool for digging around in the mind.

It never worked as psychology but it works when trying to understand mythology and religion. Alas, this tool has been cast aside. People don't want this.

I looked at the Wikipedia story of Heindel. Note that the entity which is female is a Catholic icon. Including the clitoris shape this female virgin lives in! HAHAHA.

Ah, Mother Nature's many forms! Heindel, like everyone, can't escape previous iconography which is all about sex and death anyway. I suspect, we all really do want to return to the womb as Freud suggested.

[G.]

Or as Jean Baudrillard would say..

We cannot stand our "differences" our
"diversity" our consciousness and wish
to return to the womb of life which are primitive one celled IDENTICAL bacteria.

For most people consciousness is too painful
so they look to gods,messiahs,or "free" market philosophies to help them escape from
the natural chaos of the universe.

Cloning is the manifestation of this subconscious wish.But the biological cloning
pales in comparison to already functioning mental cloning of the media--that "reality"
modeling machine.

[AF]

I don't know how you feel about Thinkprogress and Sy Hersh, but check out this doozy of a story they posted recently:

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/07/31/cheney-proposal-for-iran-war/

Bone-chilling even if it is simply a second or third hand rumor. Only truly insane people would even think about floating such proposals in serious discussion!

[BK]

Righto, my first thought was to wonder how many agents it took to cram Tylenol down his throat. But your explanation makes more sense.

[rockpaperscizzors]

Life's Value Shrinks at EPA

An Associated Press (AP) investigation released July 10 showed that the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has been devaluing human life when it prepares cost-benefit analyses for new regulations. Federal agencies such as EPA use the life value, an inaccurate statistic, to help them determine whether a proposal's benefits will outweigh compliance costs to industry.

The AP investigation found EPA's most recent life value, $6.9 million, to be about $1 million lower than it was five years ago. According to AP's Seth Borenstein, "[I]n 2004, the agency cut the estimated value of a life by 8 percent." Then, in a May 2008 regulation for train and ship pollution, EPA failed to adjust the value for inflation. "Between the two changes, the value of a life fell 11 percent, based on today's dollar," AP says. .......
http://www.ombwatch.org/article/articleview/4303

[Elaine Meinel Supkis]

HAHAHA. As money inflates and loses value, the dollar amount we are worth drops? Figures. Arrest them all. Make them take pain killers.

[AF]

Just to add to the craziness at work yesterday we had a father and son running around in matching shirts with "TRUST JESUS" in giant letters screened on the back.

The best part is that they both hold clearances and the son works in a secure area. I wonder how many more fundie nuts are out there in important positions?

[Elaine Meinel Supkis]

A lot. A hell of a lot. Indeed, this greases the promotion track. They worship a very horrid Jesus, the one that plans to kill 'enemies'.

[JSmith]

"The discovery that yes, the US government itself harbored, trained, enabled and paid the anthrax assassin as he used his own sense of moral rightness to attack the government itself, does not astonish me. "

Not to mention ordered, commanded, directed, and instructed?

"The AP investigation found EPA's most recent life value, $6.9 million, to be about $1 million lower than it was five years ago."

Makes sense. Assuming constant demand, if the supply of anything increases then the marginal value drops.

[rockpaperscizzors]

Elaine, hypothetically speaking, if I were Geronimo, I would insist on my skull being used for rituals by the power-hungry elitist European descendants. They practice abracadabra for wealth and power. And in their own short sighted stupidity, are releasing the wrath and destruction of the furies onto themselves. The descendants of the original europeans who stole the inherent wealth of the American Native Indian Nations are completing the circle. The elitist descendants' fathers who committed atrocious acts and genocide against Geronimo's people and many other tribal nations beg for Geronimo's power. So, if I was Geronimo, I would be laughing all the way to hades and celebrate that what I could not do in life and save my people, I am able to accomplish in death; the death and destruction of these foolish european descendants. And then the land shall be returned to its' rightful owners; the descendants of the Great Native American Indian People.

[R]

Elaine,

Have you read the book "Political Ponerology"

Quote:

PONEROLOGY: THE STUDY OF EVIL

“In the author’s opinion, Ponerology reveals itself to be a new branch of science born out of historical need and the most recent accomplishments of medicine and psychology. In light of objective naturalistic language, it studies the causal components and processes of the genesis of evil, regardless of the latter’s social scope. We may attempt to analyze these ponerogenic processes which have given rise to human injustice, armed with proper knowledge, particularly in the area of psychopathology. Again and again, as the reader will discover, in such a study, we meet with the effects of pathological factors whose carriers are people characterized by some degree of various psychological deviations or defects.” (Lobaczewski, 42)

With very few exceptions down the ages, discussions in moral philosophy - the study of right conduct - have failed to systematically investigate the origin, nature, and course of evil in a manner free from supernatural imaginings. Evil was often considered something to be endured rather than something that could be understood and eliminated by rational measures. And - as Lobaczewski demonstrates - the origin of evil actually lies outside the boundaries of the conventional worldview within which the earlier moral inquiries and literary explorations were conducted. Evil requires a truly modern and scientific approach to lay bare its secrets. This approach is called “ponerology”, the study of evil, from the Greek “poneros” = evil.

The original manuscript of this book went into the furnace minutes before a secret police raid in Communist Poland. The second copy, painfully reassembled by scientists working under impossible conditions of violence and repression, was sent via courier to the Vatican. Its receipt was never acknowledged - the manuscript and all valuable data lost. In 1984, the third and final copy was written from memory by the last survivor of the original researchers: Andrew Lobaczewski. Zbigniew Brzezinski blocked its publication.

After half a century of suppression, this book is finally available.

Political Ponerology is shocking in its clinically spare descriptions of the true nature of evil. It is poignant in its more literary passages revealing the immense suffering experienced by the researchers contaminated or destroyed by the disease they were studying.

Political Ponerology is a study of the founders and supporters of oppressive political regimes. Lobaczewski’s approach analyzes the common factors that lead to the propagation of man’s inhumanity to man. Morality and humanism cannot long withstand the predations of this evil. Knowledge of its nature – and its insidious effect on both individuals and groups - is the only antidote.

[Elaine Meinel Supkis]

People are cruel because it is fun to be cruel. Ever watch a group of spoiled school girls?

Geronimo is very happy he is the conduit for the Skull and Bones. Do note the S & B guys are doing a rip roaring job wrecking America.

The Apaches want to have peace and to do that, they have to put him to rest. Heh.

The business about the FBI informing the anthrax suspect and then not arresting him is getting increasing notice. No wonder. A terrorist mass murderer being informed he MIGHT be arrested? Talk about insane.

On the other hand, look at how Bush chased bin Laden...NOT.

[R]

Quote:
People are cruel because it is fun to be cruel.

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From Political Ponerology -

Quote:

Like a color blind man incapable of distinguishing red from green, a small minority of the human population cannot experience or fully comprehend the normal range of human emotions. And like those color blind who may conceal their condition by using the correct words while not understanding their meaning (e.g., the top traffic light is “red”, the bottom is “green”) - so does this minority conceal their condition by playacting an emotion's exterior signs (facial expressions, exclamations, body language). However, they do no actually experience the emotion in question. Their deception is revealed in the laboratory, where they respond to words like DEATH, CANCER, DISEASE, as if they were DAY, CREAM, or PAPER. They lack the ability to comprehend the emotional “punch” that certain words contain. They use others’ emotional reactions as cues, and they adjust their behavior to portray the correct ‘emotional’ behavior. (Hare, 129-30)

These individuals are known as psychopaths. Not only can they not feel the pain of others, they often seem to deliberately cause others pain. Lobaczewski refers to this disorder as an “essential psychopathy” to distinguish them from others with deficits in their genetic/instinctual endowment, essential psychopathy being the most severe and disturbing.

Many so-called “antisocial individuals” acquire similar characteristics in their life-time, whether caused by brain damage to certain areas of the brain, or functionally, because of close contact with and influence by such individuals. Lobaczewski terms such individuals characteropaths. The vast majority of both these groups cannot change. The acts that we call evil (especially on a macrosocial level) can be traced back to this deviant minority of human beings and the effects of their actions on their family, friends, and society.

[notgonnatellya]

it wasn't Ivins...too many loose ends.

http://georgewashington2.blogspot.com/2008/08/anthrax-attacks-were-not-entirely.html

[Elaine Meinel Supkis]

Ivins had no obvious motive to kill the guy who OKed the Jenna Drunk photos. Motives matter. Suggesting he killed this person first in order to get funding is crazy. The mainstream storyline is, he attacked so money would go to his lab.

Again: if that were so, the particular targets would not have been headlined by this particular photo editor!

Also, Cheney let it slip, he was taking anti-anthrax medicines before at the same time the photo editor was hit. There was this rather long pause between him and the others, incidentally. During that pause, we learned that the photo editor died of anthrax and I said, 'What the hell???? How did HE get this?' Online at the forums I haunted, we were placing bets that the Bushes would attack this particular man and when he turned up dead, we all went nuts.

When we learned Cheney and the Bushes were all taking antianthrax meds, we went nuts. We saw a direct connection between the two events. This is because we expected this to happen.

I figured, the important murder was the first one. All the others were to make it look 'random' and this is classic in murder cases. For example, the lady who wanted to poison her husband a decade ago put poison in various headache medicine bottles and killed about six people besides her poor husband.

I still feel the whole point of the anthrax attack was to murder the photo editor and only him. The letters sent to the others were frosting on the cake.

[Gary]

Tis no different than the expatriate Russian that was killed
by Polonium poisoning in England

Pooty Poot did this for almost the same reason except the guy
he wacked was allied with the Russian Mafia and the Yeltsin
Oligarchs who were a threat to an independent Russia.

I'm not condoning what Pooty did but what he did at least had
a bit of national security involved. This shows just how feeble
and crazy our crime families have devolved. They are wacking
people just for irrational crazy reasons. They may think they are
invincible doing this crazy shit but they are actually desperate and
on the way out.

[Q]

Question for Elaine. Will the US and/or Israel attack Iran before the inauguration? Please answer with your gut feeling and not hopes or desires or sugar coating(The Cold Cassandra answer). Thanks.

What was once conducted in the shadows has become more openly blatant.

[GK]

Hi Q, There is NO WAY we are going anywhere near Iran. That was just a masonic dog and pony show to make a few (trillion) bucks for the oil gang.

The following article proposes that the necons (Cheney et al) have been replaced by the neolibs (Zbig) and that means WWIII will be with Russia and China.

But it will not be a real war, just (YAWN) years of threats about it happening just to China can be loaded up with debt to finance the huge military build up.

If ZBig is in charge, that means the Obama puppet will be on TV for the masses in the next few years.

http://rense.com/general82/uspol.htm

"With Iran and Syria, the effort will not to attack them, but to turn them against Russia and China. This Brzezinski design is why Obama says he wants to negotiate with Iran, but bomb Pakistan. China is being weakened and destabilized by the Tibetan insurrection and other operations, and Zbig would like to stage a large-scale incident under the cover of the summer Olympics. In the final stage, Zbig thinks he can drive the oil-starved Chinese in on Russia's provinces of eastern Siberia, where there is much oil and few Russians. Obama is thus the bearer of a plan for Sino-Russian World War III that far surpasses the insanity of the neocons. Since Russia and China are both well aware of the Brzezinski plan, this entire lunatic project is sure to blow up in our faces, with cataclysmic results. "

[Elaine Meinel Supkis]

GK, he has a serious flaw in his plans. China and Russia have been busy bees with the diplomacy and are allies, not enemies. Our alliances are weakening us because they all cost us a fortune.

So we, not China or Russia, are going bankrupt. We even took up a flock of Warsaw Pact countries that also used to cost Russia a fortune but now costs us a fortune.

[Gary]

Jesus knows better than to come back to this planet

He knows if he came, the church would crucify him all over
again.

In his day it was the Church allied with the Empire that did
him in as he was a threat to the power of the Church mostly
and secondarily to the empire.

I'm sure our Fundamentalists in places like Sugarland Tx would
be the first in line with the nails.

[TL]

chant kill repeat. check out what the talk show hosts did in Rowanda. Same shit....
the bigger the lie the more idiots will believe it. I fear for this country wow this is fn scary!!!!!!

[blues]

To R,

«Their deception is revealed in the laboratory, where they respond to words like DEATH, CANCER, DISEASE, as if they were DAY, CREAM, or PAPER.»

I really think that the situation with the people with psychopathy is rather more complex than what the ponerology people propose. I think the lab experiments have perhaps been radically misconstrued by the researchers. Some afflicted with psychopathy are really very fine people. But they are profoundly disabled. I wish I had time to go into this more deeply now.

I really question the ultimate utility of talking in terms of "good" and "evil." I just think the realities they allude to are multi-dimensional, rather than merely dichotomous.

About these assassination/ suicides,

There certainly is a lot to be suspicious about! The questions around the anthrax letter event has certainly has been resolved in a most suspicious manner! The MKULTRA/MKDELTA legends certainly come to mind!

It might possibly be productive if I could review my take on the Outer Darkness issues in person with Elaine some day. We share so much in common, yet so much not in common. We agree on so much, but have such different perspectives.

The thing about the scientist Bruce E. Ivins using combination Tylenol/codeine to end his life is somewhat puzzling. Codeine is a rather weak narcotic, and if the codeine had failed to do him in, all the Tylenol would have completely wrecked his liver, leading to a relatively slow, uncomfortable demise.

[Elaine Meinel Supkis]

If he was in a mental institution, this should have been impossible. My husband has been in these places a number of times due to his brain injury and there is no way to get so much as an aspirin much less, codeine.

There is so much here that makes no sense. And the plea bargain deal? According to the lawyer of the dead scientist, the government was NOT seeking the death penalty, they wanted him to confess. Perhaps if they took him to Gitmo and waterboarded him, he would have confessed.

See what a wretched state our systems are in!

[R]

blues,

Political Ponerology is not so much about the psychopathic individuals, but rather about how these individuals affect entire societies

From Laura Knight Jadczyk

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Pathocracy is a disease of great social movements followed by entire societies, nations, and empires. In the course of human history, it has affected social, political, and religious movements as well as the accompanying ideologies… and turned them into caricatures of themselves…. This occurred as a result of the … participation of pathological agents in a pathodynamically similar process. That explains why all the pathocracies of the world are, and have been, so similar in their essential properties.

[…]Identifying these phenomena through history and properly qualifying them according to their true nature and contents - not according to the ideology in question, which succumbed to the process of caricaturization - is a job for historians. […]

The actions of [pathocracy] affect an entire society, starting with the leaders and infiltrating every town, business, and institution. The pathological social structure gradually covers the entire country creating a “new class” within that nation. This privileged class [of pathocrats] feels permanently threatened by the “others”, i.e. by the majority of normal people. Neither do the pathocrats entertain any illusions about their personal fate should there be a return to the system of normal man. [Andrew M. Lobaczewski, Ph.D. (psychology); Political Ponerology: A science on the nature of evil adjusted for political purposes]
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[…] Years ago the publication of the book in the US was killed by Mr. Zbigniew Brzezinski in a very cunning way. What was his motivation, I may only guess. Was it his own private strategy, or did he act as an insider of the “great system” as he surely is? How many billions of dollars and how many human lives the lack of this science has cost the world. […]
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After reading Lobaczewski's work, it is easy to understand why Brzezinski suppressed it. It exposes the Neocons and Pathocrats so completely that they could not allow it to be propagated! It also may be that they used it as a handbook to better "pull the wool" over the eyes of the masses.