US Torture Of Small Children In Iraq Prison

August 16, 2008

Elaine Meinel Supkis

Oh Goddess of Justice! Right on the heels of US dictators wailing about the Chinese government, attacking Russians for being nasty bastards, along comes yet more embarrassing, ugly, hideous movies made in our Gulag of vicious prison camps inside of Iraq. This latest one is about prisoners held in vast, totally desolate cages with floppy tents as shelters. One of these Nazi-type camps is filled with CHILDREN. From 9 to 16 years old. Dressed in rags. God help us. Not a peep about this in our complicit, warmongering media. The NYT, of course, thinks it is OK to brutalize Muslim children. They are all terrorists! I AM SICK OF THIS. May the dire gods of these people committing these crimes mete out punishments!

YouTube video claims 9-year-old at US prison in Iraq
David Edwards and Muriel Kane

At 5:47 into the video, the group approaches a barbed wire enclosure where the inmates tell them, "We are all under 18. ... We all have been here for more than a year."

The guide hastens to explain, "We have juveniles from 14 to 18. ... They're IED makers. They are dangerous people."

One young inmate calls out, "I swear to God, some were just walking in the streets or sleeping and they brought us here. I swear to God we are all innocent."

"I am my mother's only child," says another, at which the American soldier breaks in, "And he is the most dangerous. We know about him."

"I am only a child," says a third, more youthful, voice.

"How old are you?" he is asked.

"Nine years old."

"How long have you been here?"

"Five months. ... They wanted to take my father. I told them take me instead."

The children are unsupervised. They are left to fend for themselves. The US soldiers don't look human, dressed up in all sorts of inhuman gear, they are machines, robots set out to crush CIVILIANS. And children! This is EXACTLY like the camps run by the Jews in Israel! And our nation goes down the same, ugly, nasty, horrid road: our desire to control Muslims who hate us because we are there to steal stuff....they are to be taught a lesson. Cruelty of the imperial troopers. Cue Darth Vader's march.

On top of this, we went through a month of endless screeching in the Zionist media about Darfur, Tibet, Chinese oppression, Russian menaces. Every day, a troop of Howler Monkeys in the media were swinging from tree to tree, bellowing deafening accusations that other nations were evil. Other nations oppressed people. Other nations were cruel to religious minorities. Other nations were stealing the lands of natives and bringing in invasive settlers from the outside.

I swear to the Goddesses of Hubris, they must petition a phalanx of lightning bolts to strike down every one of these stupid, howling fools. HAVE THEY NO SHAME???? As we whine about Cuba's baseball pitching, we run a Stalinist prison camp on their sovereign island. Our government does this so the victims trapped there can't call upon the civil rights embodied in our poor, nearly dead Constitution. This morning, I mocked Professor Setser for his 'summer long' efforts to write a thesis which supposes that 'free democracies' are doing poorly, economically, while 'autocratic' ones are doing very well.

I instantly lit out at him, daring him to explain just how the US is different from any of the cruelest authoritarian states. We fund the building of huge ghettoes in Palestine. We permit the Jewish armies to attack their neighbors at will and prevent the UN from stopping obvious massacres. But if anyone defends their own borders, we attack them. Just like when Tibetans went on a vicious, racially-charged rampage, murdering innocent Chinese citizens, the US supported this and attacked China for stopping this outrage.

Yet here we are, in Iraq, a supposedly 'sovereign' nation, imprisoning YOUNG BOYS in a camp that is utterly despicable. I lived in a tent for ten years. But I had windows, doors, a heating system, INSULATION and running water. From what I saw of that hideous camp, the boys are in a cloth tent in the baking sun with NO SHADE which my tent had, and they seem to have nothing, nothing at all. Except once a week, a movie????

NO SCHOOLING, NO ADULT CARE???? Gads!!!!! I am.....OUTRAGED. As a mother, I can't express my fury enough. Damn, damn, damn Bush and Cheney, the paranoid pair of war criminals! ARREST THEM!!!!

Cold Friends, Wrapped in Mink and Medals By BILL KELLER

So much for that thesis. Surveying the Russian military rout of neighboring Georgia and the spectacle of China’s Olympics, Ms. Freeland, editor of The Financial Times’s American edition and a journalist who started her career covering Russia and Ukraine, proclaimed that a new Age of Authoritarianism was upon us.

If it is not yet an age, it is at least a season: Springtime for autocrats, and not just the minor-league monsters of Zimbabwe and the like, but the giant regimes that seemed so surely bound for the ash heap in 1989.

The Chinese have made their Olympics an exultant display of athletic prowess and global prestige without having to temper their impulse to suppress and control. From the dazzling locksteps of that opening ceremony, to the kowtowing international V.I.P.’s, to the carefully policed absence of protest, this was an Olympics largely free of democratic mess.

Individualism has been confined between lane markers. The pre-Olympics promises that attention would be paid to international norms of behavior went unredeemed. The New York Times’s Andrew Jacobs followed one citizen who decided to take up the government’s Olympic offer of designated protest zones for aggrieved parties who had filed the proper paperwork. Zhang Wei applied for the requisite license and was promptly arrested for “disturbing social order.” Take that, International Olympic Committee.

Typical Zionist NYT whine-athon article about China. Well, I have been SHOT at while demonstrating in the past. I have been arrested while not showing even the slightest sign of violence, nay, when there was NO violence. When the police did arrest me, a riot broke out because everyone was so outraged by this, they tried to overturn the police car I was in! Then, I was charged with 'inciting a riot' when I only asked everyone to STOP! Charges were dropped due to the fact that I was going to sue.

By the way, two ladies who were arrested at a Bush appearance for wearing the wrong Tee shirts won their lawsuit and got $50,000 each. But they should never have been arrested. Talking about cruel authoritarians:

News crew crashes Denver's DNC 'concentration camp'

In Denver, police are preparing what a local political organizer calls a 'concentration camp,' laying in wait for mass arrests anticipated during the upcoming Democratic National Convention.

On Wednesday, a Denver CBS affiliate sent a news crew to crash the police department's improvised detention facility, found in a warehouse owned by the city on the north-east side of town.

"This is a building filled with metal holding cells," described reporter Rick Sallinger, introducing the segment. "We showed up at the facility unannounced today, the doors were wide open, and we managed to shoot for several minutes until a Denver sheriff's captain asked us to leave."

Footage of the warehouse revels tall, chain-link fence capped by barbed wire, and segmented pens each bearing an identifying letter at about shoulder height.

Is this in the Zionist NYT? Or the warmongering, war criminal Washington Post? HAHAHA. Never! Never! If these guys ever told the truth, I suppose the earth will open up and the iron claws of demons will pull them down as punishment! So they lie or hide or fake it. When I went to DC for a massive demonstration against the looming war with the Iraqi civilians, babies, old men, grannies, etc. the NYT claimed no one showed up. We filed a complaint and they had a small story the next day saying, 'Oops. Thousands showed up and demonstrated.' No pictures, of course.

Arrest the owners of the NYT and try them for treason.

By the way, the main papers and TV won't cover any of this. For example, when Kucinich forced the impeachment hearings which war criminal Pelosi said, could not utter the word 'impeachment', no online media was allowed except for a tiny handful because all the seats were reserved for the yapping media. Who then DIDN'T COVER THE STORY. Because they want war crimes. They want an authoritarian US government. This kind of screws up poor Brad Setser's lovely little thesis. Talk about pointy-headed microbrainiac thinking.

Russia’s new nuclear challenge to Europe

Russia is considering arming its Baltic fleet with nuclear warheads for the first time since the cold war, senior military sources warned last night.

The move, in response to American plans for a missile defence shield in Europe, would heighten tensions raised by the advance of Russian forces to within 20 miles of Tbilisi, the Georgian capital, yesterday.

Under the Russian plans, nuclear warheads could be supplied to submarines, cruisers and fighter bombers of the Baltic fleet based in Kaliningrad, a Russian enclave between the European Union countries of Poland and Lithuania. A senior military source in Moscow said the fleet had suffered from underfunding since the collapse of communism. “That will change now,” said the source.

“In view of America’s determination to set up a missile defence shield in Europe, the military is reviewing all its plans to give Washington an adequate response.”

The fools in NATO want the US to surround them with a picket fence of nuclear missiles and to use NATO as the New World Order Expeditionary Forces For Crushing Little Arab Boys. Putin is going to put up MIRV missiles right next to Poland. And aim them squarely at Paris and Berlin. Berlin has already been turned to rubble. I suppose they are nostalgic for the good old days. Seig Heil! I detailed yesterday how the US shoved Putin around mercilessly. One of the earliest postings I ever did was how the NYT was gushing over Condi, the supposed Russian expert. She was wearing Nazi-dominatrix boots! How cool was that! And a martial coat! And strode about forcefully! The NYT reporters swooned over her masculinity.

Well, she evidently can't speak Russian. This fool, this pathetic excuse for Secretary of State has worked day and night in the name of her neo-con teacher, Strauss, to restart the Cold War. Only Putin is a lot smarter than her and her gang! He is now running circles around them. Europe is hoping oil from Iraq will spare them this winter when Russia cuts supplies.

Oil from Iraq! Europe, like the US, turns a blind eye to the horrors of our raging war against civilians in Iraq. DARFUR!!! DARFUR!!! TIBET!!!!! Oh my god.

Conyers Calls Emergency Hearings About Bush/Cheney War Letter Forgeries:

House Judiciary Chairman John Conyers has taken the highly unusual step of calling his committee back from summer recess in order to investigate allegations by Ron Suskind that the Bush administration forged a letter to buttress the links made between Saddam and 9/11, and Saddam and WMD. The congressional Authorization for the Use of Force Against Iraq, the ""War Resolution" which, as far short as it fell of a congressional declaration of war, gave the invasion its constitutional legal cover, and gave Bush the authorization to invade only after he had certified to congress the existence of these two critical links. If Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11, and if he did not possess WMD, the war was off.
*snip*
Conyers' reconvening of his committee was the result of enormous public pressure, most poignantly that coming from military families wanting to know why their loved ones are dead. Despite the exquisite, shining clockwork political operation now in place at the Executive Branch, working hand in glove with the media spin machine, it's still not that easy to get 4100 Americans killed over lies. Bush knew Americans would not subject their troops to such an uncertain fiasco over 17 violated UN resolutions, or Saddam's brutal but by no means unique human rights record. If we attacked every country which violated UN resolutions, we'd be bombing Tel Aviv.

More non-news. The DNC thinks that if we let these war criminals go scot free like LBJ, Nixon, Reagan, et al, why, we can continue to pound civilians into a pulp in Muslim lands. No one will object or stop this. AIPAC loves this concept and pays a lot of money to insure we continue doing this forever and ever. As the very popular McCain criminal says, '100 years occupation of Iraq.' I presume the little boys will be in rocking chairs by then, eh? Gads. And of course, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran, too. Another sterling moment in US history.

US must share power in new world order, says Turkey's controversial president

Days after Russia scored a stunning geopolitical victory in the Caucasus, President Abdullah Gül of Turkey said he saw a new multipolar world emerging from the wreckage of war.

The conflict in Georgia, Gül asserted, showed that the United States could no longer shape global politics on its own, and should begin sharing power with other countries.

"I don't think you can control all the world from one centre," Gül told the Guardian. "There are big nations. There are huge populations. There is unbelievable economic development in some parts of the world. So what we have to do is, instead of unilateral actions, act all together, make common decisions and have consultations with the world. A new world order, if I can say it, should emerge."

As a nine-year old Samson pulls down the pillars of the mighty US empire, as everything crashes down upon our heads, all we can do is pray that Putin and Hu show us more mercy than we show the children of Iraq or Palestine.

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[Elaine Meinel Supkis]

And honest to god, I found this really hard to write today. Blood broiling over and all that.

Sigh.

[DM]

Elaine

I have nothing to add. Just a 'thank-you' for maintaining this rage.

[Christian W]

Exactly. If Israel/the Zionist warmongers drag the US down to their level and make war crimes commonplace and acceptable, who shall then stand up to Zionist ethnic cleansing? The Zionists could never complete their dream of Gross Israel (Eretz Israel) as long as they were prohibited from ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians. But anything the US does is cloaked in virtue by the fact that the US by definition is the good guy and nothing will penetrate the skulls of those who hold this to be an article of faith (faith is tied to our emotions, not the logical part of our brains). This Automatic Virtue Device is one of the main tools for political manipulation of the populace and it is constantly hammered in by the MSM propaganda machine and even society in general. Fourth of July is part of this for example, it gets perverted into things like 'support the troops, support the troops...' no matter what crimes these troops are committing.

[notabfd]

Russia also has an angry Elaine (Elena?):
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article20533.htm

[Timothy]

Maybe this was found in their possession...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzlFPm7bymY

[carli]

This type of behavior towards children is difficult to understand. It is unacceptable and inconsistent with civilized society. Yet we find it in the 21st Century.

It is amazing how media and governments constantly remind us about the Holocaust while these acts are being committed under our noses today, and with little or no attention by the media. Unless it suits a particular political agenda. We see governments eating their own children without conscience or shame.

Probably because it is perpetuated by those who purport to have the high moral ground. Image is more important than truth. Perception is Reality. They behave this way and do not live or practice the teachings of their own religions. Just use the same to justify their atrocities.

As the Roman poet and philosopher, Lucretius, put it so aptly, "Tantum religio potuit saudere malorum."

To such heights of evil are men driven by religion.

It is truly sad how nothing has changed through the centuries in human nature.

[G.]

The behavior of most of our Police and Soldiers in America is
very similar.

Decades of desensitying video games, TV programming and
Radio Rwanda (talk radio) have turned a lot of our young
people in the police and military into almost cyborg like figures.

Little wonder 99pct of cops can only be friends with other cops.
To them, we are the enemy. Same can be said for most soldiers.
Once decent human beings have been rendered into androids.
Just like you can render a horse carcass into Elmers Glue, you
can render a decent human into a sociopath. The ones that
cant be rendered either desert or come down with Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome,

God Help America.

[don]

One of the Chinese papers informed
its athletes that "Any player who fails
will endure some degree of private or
public humiliation".If you were a pro, I can understand the payment options, but Amature status has a
new meaning. This all came about while watching the Table Tennis Games (ping pong).
Watching the Womens finals between China and Singapore, the women who defected to Singapore were orignially from China ! And
the monetary process goes like this: From the Singapore Govt. You win a gold medal its one million, silver 500,000. The ladies from singapore picked up the Silver, Chinese ladies who played for Singapore..go figure...........out-sourcing players and for what price?????????????????????????

[don]

I forgot one thing, I know Iran had a hard time gettin into the olympics because of some political mis-understanding. Maybe the CODIS system found to many of them from the
un-documented prisons....NOT.........
Excellent post elaine.............

[John]

The only problem I have is that you seem to have forgotten that the Islamists do employ children this young in precisely these fashions - making bombs, and wearing them into crowds where they self-detonate.

I'm not sure what the answer is, but is sure isn't to go "aww, poor wittul children!" and turn them all loose.

I'm sure the same complaint could be made about incarcerated women, who also make and wear explosives for the Islamist cause.

Just be because the American and Israeli governments are full of evil, power-mad, fanatical assholes doesn't mean the Islamist threat is not real; those countries are mostly run by evil, power-mad, fanatical assholes too. And no, while western Big Bidness exploitation in the Arab world has certainly fanned the fanatical flames of the Islamists, changing this will not remove the threat they represent, because it was not the sole factor in creating that threat.

We have to wipe out the Islamists by all means neccessary, AND we have to refom our own government, purging the parasitic monitary elite from their positions of dominance over it.

I suppose that's where I break with most of the people who oppose the Bushies. I understand all too well how real and serious the Islamist threat really is. There's nothing friendly about Iran's little dictator runt, or the Palestinians, or the Chi-coms or Russians, for that matter.

In short, the world is a very messed up place right now, and by no means is it all America's fault.

[Elaine Meinel Supkis]

Children who resisted the Nazis were hung or shot.

We just park them in tents with no services. And we treat them as sub-humans. If we were REALLY at war, I expect we would simply murder them.

Many small children in Palestine are simply shot dead.

[Elaine Meinel Supkis]

Indeed, we HONOR and claim that children who resisted the Nazis were HEROES.

When a country is invaded all civilians have the HUMAN RIGHT TO RESIST MILITARY OCCUPATION. Period.

The colonialists of America had that right. And knew, if their children were caught, they could be executed. But this is a fundamental basis of all human rights. We subscribe to this when people on OUR side are resisting an invasion. But not the other way around.

This is why the US massacred Indian children. Not to mention bombing cities in WWII.

[DeVaul]

"aww, poor wittul children!"

That's what our enemies will be saying about our own children someday when we use them to help us defeat and drive out the occupying forces that raze our cities, steal our resouces, rape our women and children, imprison or murder all able-bodied men and claim that they are here to help us.

Thanks for giving them a pre-packaged slang term to use in the future, John. They probably will not know much English.

[G.]

John.

America has the same proportion of religious zealots as the Middle East.

If we were impoverished, occupied and terrorized, our religious zealots would be using any means at their disposal to fight back.
You dont realize how crazy things here could get if we were
occupied and jacked around.

People are the same everywhere and when we think we are
so civilized, high, and mighty we are bullshitting ourselves.

[G]

John

You guys enhanced and abetted the "Islamist" threat.

Firstly, in the name of anti-socialism, you thrwarted every
secular govt in the ME. Does Mossadega sound familiar ?
The democratically SECULAR leader in Iran you deposed in
the 50's.

Secondly, In cahoots with the despots in Saudi and elsewhere
you furthered radical Islamism because, at first, it was not
a challenge to the corporate power that was linked up with
our approved list of despots. Radical Islam was opposed to
secular/sociialist type of society. Much like our own home
grown radical "christianity" is opposed to social programs
in the US !

When you invade an area of the world under false pretenses
for reasons that are blatantly corporate and hegominic you
do not have the Proverbial Pot-to-Piss-In when you complain
about the methods used to fight back

[TL]

Not Americas fault, but look at our own government websites: CDC, Library of Congress etc, and look who gave lots of Chemical Weapons to Iraq. The only thing we export is DEATH! We are awfully generous with machines and bio-chem crap when it benefits us, then when it doesnt we can wage war and take it away again? Yaaaaaay now that's foreign policy kids.

[Elaine Meinel Supkis]

Good analysis, G.

Correct, TL. We export commodities like wood, oil, scrap metals, food. And war stuff. This is a bad combination. And very similar to Russia, incidentally.

[G.]

The rise of the Muslim Brotherhood--the
pre-runner of the modern Al Queda--was
paralleled in the US by the Chicago School,
led by Leo Strauss, whose doctrines are
Machiavellian at best. Olde Uncle Leo stated
that the only way "leaders" could "lead"
was by deception and using "christianity"
and "patriotism" was a great way of "leading
by deceiving". When the peasants are always
riled up about "queers gittin' married,
dem librulz takin' away Christmas, and those
wicked Muslims attackin'our oil, they will
never look to the real source of their misery
which is the relentless class warfare of Amerika's elite in wrecking our middle class and offshoring jobs.

[Ed-M]

Correct, G.

back to the post's subject, can you BELIEVE that the US is treating these men and boys like this?? I mean, all they get are these miserable tents that let the sand in, whereas in WWII, the Nazis actually BUILT BARRACKS for their prisoners! Cheaper than the Nazis. And I'll bet KB&R charged us TEN TIMES what it cost the Germans to build a Nazi Koncentrationzahler (camp) of equal size, even AFTER accounting for inflation.

And those uniforms made our troops look like clown versions of the stormtroopers from Star Wars. If the REAL Nazis were running the show, the troops would be wearing smartly-designed butternut uniforms and the prisoners would be in BUILDINGS, NOT TENTS.

Speaking of our troops, one of them must have IMO called one of the prisoners a "sand n-----" or some other racial slur, for he complained to the physician that he was not a monkey!

[Ed-M]

OK the Nazis made the prisoners build the barracks themselves. But at least they were buildings that kept out the snow!

[mellisa]

my poor baby! Omg i feel really bad. Fuck amarica. They think everyone is a terrorist.

[Agarwaen]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA... you people are freaking idiots. You would believe anything if some poor muslim said it woudn't you. You simply hate the USA and will beieve anything anyone says that is bad about it won't you. The place you are seeing in the video is Camp Bucca, Iraq. I know I was stationed there for a year. You people have no idea. Those people will claim anything and lie out their teeth. So wow surprising that they say they are innocent or they are 9 years old... Hogwash. What the video leaves out is that they religious education very nice tents with AC to live, better food than the soldiers get to eat, better health care thatn the soldiers get, daily education classes, they are all getting paid during their time there, visitation whenever they want, and the IRC comes in their all the time. You sheeple have no idea what is really happening, try not blaming everything on the hated devil USA and actually look and think, not everything is the zionist capitalist pigs you sorry F*&^%S.

[Hugo]

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[Hunter]

It's one thing to sit here and complain about everything going on in the other countries...it's another to auctually stand up and say that we as Americans are not helping the cause any. Yes boys and young children probably ARE forced to bomb themselves, but at the same time here in America there are also small children living on the streets because people can't GET OFF THEY'RE ASSES and take responsibility... so i say, let's fix America before we try to fix other countries.