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PJSV

A certain point of view:

McCain/neocons use «their» own networks to make events to increase their numbers on the polls;

Obama/neo-liberals also use «their» own networks to make events to increase their numbers on the polls (Soros short selling the banks).

Elaine Meinel Supkis

Al Qaeda wants the GOP to run the US into the ground. They know when to strike fear in hearts and thus, gain more stupidity at the top in the US.

Blunt Force Trauma

I was going to say that perhaps because of who typically stays at this hotel and what has happened lately with the missile firings by the US and the killing of Pakistanis as a result of those US missile attacks, that maybe; this was in retaliation?

Just putting it out there.

Elaine Meinel Supkis

Yup, it is retaliation. Tit for tat. We send in assassin drones and they send in assassin bombers.

JT

Osama is dead and has been since 2001.

Still a powerful figure though, he helps get republicans elected.

Q

The solution to eliminating the Taliban is simple. Make peace with Iran, let Israel fend for itself, and most definitely leave the Middle East and South Asia in order to get out of the crossfire. Let India, Russia and China deal with the literal fall out. The US needs to retrench and rebuild fortress America and pursue energy self sufficiency.

Won't happen though and something bad will probably happen around the time the scales of Libra are in perfect balance on October 7 at 10 pm GMT.

gg battams

i do not believe 911 was a attack by middle east terrorists it was a attack promoted by george bush and the other vipers who have injected thier venom into the throat of america. this recent attack comes at a time when pakistan was getting very pissed off with the rambo type tactics of america.it would not surprise me if the cia were not behind this attack .hello george great idea lets bomb the shit out of a big hotel in pakistan and blame it on some one else? then we will have a free hand to kill more tribes people.oh sorry i mean terrorists.yes but how are we going to get a stupid dumb religous nut who is so stupid that he thinks god is real to blow himself up? oh thats very easy we have several double agents who are very good at persuading religous nuts that god wills it .besides if we can get the homer simpsons of america to belive that the twin towers fell down into a pile of dust then we can easily fool a illeterate goat herder. great agent 666 meet you at the bohemian grove next summer

Bokonon

This time, Elaine, you are right and you are right.

The drone attacks took place on the same day the USA embassy issued a press release guaranteeing Pakistan sovereignty. Please see http://islamabad.usembassy.gov/pr-08091701.html.

It is worth reading just for the following sentence -"The conversations were extremely frank, positive, and constructive."

I know the "extremely frank" when used in context with Admirals normally means salty language delivered at high volume. Any insight on the "positive and constructive."?

It does look like the Pakistani military have replied in a frank manner. They simply lifted their hand. Essentially the USA wants Pakistan to go to civil war and this is their reply.

For Australia, this is now our most serious geo-political threat. If Pakistan fails, it could release a refugee tsunami bigger than the combined populations of Afghanistan and Iraq. We will have to triple our billion dollar bribe to Indonesia and we will truly find out how christian a country we really are, especially considering how excited we got over about 500 boat people, what will we do when a million turn up.


Bokonon

Debka.com is reporting that the Pakistani President and Prime Minister were supposed to be at the Marriot but changed plans.

gg battams

re Bokonon .it is like the israelis who took the day off from the twin towers on 911?

Bokonon

I would suspect that Debka.com is trying to say that the Pakistan ruling elites are telling the USA that they have to be part of the solution or bad things will happen to the USA (and their allies).

Elaine Meinel Supkis

Al Qaeda already said they want to target the President of Pakistan.

Blunt force Trauma

What Was Mysterious Activity Going on in the Marriott Hotel Islamabad by United States Marines

'Marriott Hotel has now become a ghost house which was yesterday the most beautiful and prestigious hotels in the Islamabad. While the condemnation of the blasts and the deaths and the loss of property is going on from all the quarters, some intriguing news is also pouring in.

After the blast, mysteriously fire was started at the fourth and fifth floors. It was said that this fire was the result of gas pipeline burst running through the hotel. The million dollar question is that was the gas pipeline not running through the other floors? Why the fire broke out from the fourth and fifth flours? That is the question which perhaps holds the key to the mystery as why the hotel was targeted yesterday, in which more than 60 people died including many foreigners.

Though it would never get confirmed but the fire on the fifth and fourth floor of the hotel broke out because those flours were housing the mysterious steel boxes under the heavy guard of United States marines and no one including the Pakistani security forces and the security men of the hotel were allowed to go near with the them. These boxes were shifted inside the hotel when the Admiral Mike Mullen met Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani and others in Islamabad.

It is said that one member of parliament Mumtaz Alam who belongs to the PPP, the ruling party was there eye witnessed the whole scene when the white truck of US embassy came to the gate of Marriot Hotel and US marines themselves unloaded the steel boxes from the trucks and shifted them to the fourth and fifth floors without passing through them the scanners at the entrance of the hotels. When the truck was there, all the entrance and the exit passage way to the hotels were closed.

And now this blast has occurred at the Marriott, while that mysterious activity was going on.'

Blunt Force Trauma

Marriott Marines mystery (Saudi Gazette)

ISLAMABAD – Was there a top secret operation of the US Marines going on inside the Marriott in Islamabad when it was attacked on Saturday evening? No one will confirm it but circumstantial evidence is in abundance.
A group of 30 US Marines, allegedly part of a security team for this week’s visit of Admiral Mike Mullen, chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, to Islamabad might have been the intended targets of the truck-bomb attack that killed 53 people in the hotel and injured up to 266 others.
Witnesses said the Marines unloaded a US embassy truckload of steel boxes and shifted them inside the Marriott Hotel on Wednesday, the same night that Admiral Mullen met Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani and others in Islamabad. It was a high-security operation carried out with both the main gates of the hotel closed. Only the US Marines could approach the truck to unload the steel boxes and shift them inside the hotel.
Hotel sources said the boxes were not passed through the scanners installed at the entrance of the lobby and were shifted to the fourth and fifth floors of the Marriott.
Among several people who witnessed the whole thing were PPP parliamentarian Mumtaz Alam Gilani and his two friends, Sajjad Chaudhry, a PPP leader, and one Bashir Nadeem. The leading English language daily The News said Alam Gilani and his friends were leaving the Nadia restaurant of the Marriott at midnight when they found a white US embassy truck parked right in front of the hotel’s main entrance and almost a dozen well-built US Marines in fatigues unloading the steel boxes and taking them into the hotel without passing through the scanners. A third PPF friend of Gilani, who was waiting for the hotel’s main gates to open to get his car in, was informed on enquiry that the boxes were being shifted to the fourth and fifth floors.
Gilani was furious over having to wait and also over the security lapse he was witnessing. He protested but the Marines ignored him and the security men he approached were helpless.
Gilani was heard telling his friends that he would never visit the hotel again. He also threatened to raise the issue in parliament.

Blunt Force Trauma

Marriott Hotel Blast (Pak Tribune)

"On 20 September, 2008, Pakistan President Asif Ali Zardari has stated in his Maiden Speech to Joint Parliamentary session that no country would be allowed to violate territorial integrity of Pakistan in the name of curbing terrorism. But just after few hours terrorists have responded to the government will and shattered the capital peace through hitting a Five Star Hotel “Marriott”. In this attack at least 60 people were killed and over 300 injured when an explosives laden truck along with a small vehicle rammed into the gate and reached to the lobby of the hotel. It was the third attempt of targeting this hotel."

Full article here:

http://tiny.cc/V1Vs1

Blunt Force Trauma

The Marriott Bombing: ‘Pakistan’s 9/11’? (Chowk)

(Well it was a mighty big blast out front and the whole building was burned out. But it didn't fall. So much for NIST's 'thermal expansion' theory. Or was it not tall enough to fall with only 5 floors? Pffft, please.)

Full story:

http://tiny.cc/Ojg5Y

Greg

No sorry Elaine It wasnt Al Qaeda just some pressure from AL Ciada on the pakistanis.....

What Was Mysterious Activity In Marriott Hotel Islamabad by U. S. Marines? 21 Sep 2008 After the Marriott Hotel blast, mysteriously, fire started at the fourth and fifth floors. It was said that this fire was the result of gas pipeline burst running through the hotel. The million dollar question is, was the gas pipeline not running through the other floors? Why did the fire erupt on the fourth and fifth floors? These questions perhaps hold the key to the mystery of why the hotel was targeted. Though it would never be confirmed, the fire on the fifth and fourth floor of the hotel broke out because those floors were housing mysterious steel boxes under the heavy guard of United States Marines and no one -- including the Pakistani security forces and the hotel security men -- were allowed to go near them. These boxes were shifted inside the hotel when Admiral Mike Mullen met Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani and others in Islamabad. It is said that one member of parliament, Mumtaz Alam who belongs to the PPP, the ruling party, witnessed the scene when the white truck of the US embassy arrived at the gate of Marriott Hotel and US marines unloaded the steel boxes from the trucks and shifted them to the fourth and fifth floors, without passing through them the scanners at the entrance of the hotel. When the truck was there, the entrance and exit passageways to the hotel were closed. The blast occurred at the Marriott, while that mysterious activity was taking place. [Note: Grammatical edits have been made to this summary of the Pakistan Daily article. --LRP]

Two US marines killed in Marriott blast: Pentagon 21 Sep 2008 The US Department of Defence at Pentagon has confirmed the deaths of its two marines in Marriott blast in Islamabad. According to GEO News, the Pentagon said that its two marines succumbed to injuries in the blast. The soldiers were deployed in US embassy in Islamabad.

Official: warning on terrorist attack in Islamabad received 3 days ago --Interior Advisor: Preliminary investigations showed that RDX and TNT of high intensity were used for the attack, which is used by the army --600 kg of explosives used for attack 21 Sep 2008 Pakistan's interior ministry said on Sunday that the authorities had information three days ago that terrorists would carry out a attack in the capital Islamabad. "We had information that terrorist can strike near the parliament or any other place in Islamabad," Interior Advisor to the prime minister Rehman Malik told reporters at a news conference.

GK

I remember studying the Bali bombing and seeing the EXACT SAME insane crater.

You would have to be mentally retarded to believe that a conventional above ground truck bomb can create an underground crater like that.

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=59898.0

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message611641/pg6

"The US forces and Pakistan have been involved in border confrontations for six months, and Mossad agents are saying that the US is teaching Pakistan a lesson. The truth is this is about creating a trail to the sale of some of Pakistan's nukes.

Pakistan has 125 nukes, and they are an Islamic country. There is no doubt that Israel will pull A False Flag on an American city, and blame it on Iran. But they need a clear trail to an Islamic nuke, and that is what this is all about.


The Zionists are starting to implode the world economy, and that has to be tied to a Muslim False Flag. The Zionists have planned this for 100 years, and with any con there has to be a fall guy. If America goes into a financial collapse, and a leader comes along that makes the case it was orchestrated like 1929, than the rope will come out.

A nuke in an American city that leads to war in the Persian Gulf is just the ticket that international Jewry wants."

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