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shargash

"Gimme Credit LLC in Chicago"

Gimme credit? LMAO! What a perfect name for an American financial company!

Rich

OK - So what do we do with our savings?
I've already bought some of that yellow metal and some euros. No debt. How do I keep what little savings I have that may be needed for a rainy day?

Teddy

IMO, there is no global savings glut since there is inflation worldwide including Chindia. And the standard of living for most workers and people in the world is going down including Chindia because wages and income for most are not keeping up with inflation. IMO, real interest rates in most countries are negative and now they want to lower them! Huh?...........so much for a global economy that benefits all, even in the emerging economies. Hopefully, some better policy makers will emerge worldwide to work for meaningful, alternate energy alternatives. And hopefully some genius will emerge to invent a viable alternative fuel real soon to correct the dangerous imbalances that are going parabolic.

mad mike

i went to the bank today to renew my CD.
i had to take out 10% to pay feb 1st property taxes. the rest was rolled over for 3 months at 4.85% interest.
so inflation is +7% and i can even get 5%!
but the nice clerk told me folks are locking in lower rates for longer maturities.
because they think rates will go lower.
maybe china can force rates up. i figger that if dollar investments stay below 5% then the dollar is worthless.
and $600 bucks tax rebate! it should be
$6000.00! after all those fed guys passed out liqiudity to all their buddies to the tune of uncounted billions. down in D.C. they are laffing at us. heh-heh! we stole all the money, wrecked the economy, tanked the dollar, let's give those bastids 600 bucks, so they dont tar and feather us and ride us out on rails.
i wish i had dollar for every dollar paulison gave to his rich buddies.
HUMBUBBAH!

Elaine Supkis

100% correct, Teddy. As always.

Yes, there is NO savings glut but in ONE PLACE ONLY: FOREX reserves! This is why I yap about FOREX reserves so much. They are one of several important keys to track and think about.

Isn't it sad?

Shargash, that name is like Pirates LLP. Their ship sank several months ago. I predicted it would. Hell, all these creeps are going under and their creepy names will be a laugh riot for historians.

DeVaul

I would dearly love to see some of these despicable politicians and bankers tarred and feathered and shoved out of town on a rail through a guantlet of onlookers. That is what is sorely needed in our society today: some kind of public accountability and mass identification of the criminals.

This is why I call this age The Collapse of the Great Hidden Ponzi Scheme. 95% of the world's people will not see the pyramid collapse. They will only see the huge tsunami crash into shore and wipe everything out, but they won't know where it came from and no one will tell them.

Except for Elaine.

D.F. Facti

On a more mundane level - - - eggs are two dollars a dozen where not too long ago they were maybe 1.49. At the local discount grocery, they were between 69 and 79 cents per dozen - oh - 6 years ago, perhaps. Today they are 1.69 at the same store.

Meat - beef - unbelievable. I saw a cut of sirloin yesterday - a better cut - for $25.00 - for a good sized roast. (And this is not prime or in a "high end" grocery.)

EVERYTHIG is MUCH more expensive.

I'm all for the tar and feather solution.

Elaine - I will have some very interesting things to send you shortly. The new world order types have a plan - and it's out there - the blue print - and I am not a conspiracy theorist or a nut.

Elaine Supkis

Glad to see you, Facti!

I raised the price of my green eggs from my Chilean hens this week. Grain costs so much more. Here, eggs go for $3.00 a dozen. Isn't it amazing. I feel like I am back in 1978 only Volker isn't here to stop this garbage.

So we will see 20% interest CDs in 10 years if we don't see WWIII.

tutterfrut

The cheapest foodstore in Belgium(Europe) sells them for 1.78 euros(a dozen)

Bokonon

Latest news from Davos, American official says we could have stayed at home and just read Elaine's news from Berlin. (Joking)

Congrats on calling the change in behaviour of the Chinese correct.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/business/davosdiary/jan08/chinesecurrency.htm

On the price of eggs, $3.00 is cheap for excellent quality eggs. (I pay AU$4.00 for my jumbos).

Carli

"The point here is, life is living and living is loving and money has NOTHING to do with this in the end"... This was because I don't believe money matters in the end. This peculiarity is why it doesn't make me happy or sad depending on the level of money in my life. I like more money but I won't cry over spilt milk. I save that for tears shed for loved ones. I will cry over the loss of a lamb but not over the loss of a dollar."

Perhaps Elaine, the coming crash, crunch, debacle, Depression, or whatever people choose to call it will change the way people live their lives. From one of NEED to one of PURPOSE. You have lived it, you know what I'm talking about. May your tribe grow and prosper.

"For what profit is it to a man if he gains the whole world, and loses his own soul? Or what will a man give in exchange for his soul?" ~ (Matthew 16:26)

Not Student

Just a thought, it might not be so bad to be owned by the Asians.

Greg

ya gotta love denninger!!!!

Thursday, January 24, 2008
Boing! Go Interest Rates

Got priapism?

The Bond Market does.

Our government never ceases to amaze me.

They of course announce a "bipartisan stimulus package" to supposedly "help" our economy.

The bond market no likey, to put it bluntly.

The TNX, 10 year Treasury Rates, spiked hard - by more than 20 basis points, to 3.64%.

That's a six and a quarter percent change on the day!

Oh, and before someone says "oh it was rotation out into equities", no it wasn't.

It was the bond market telling our government to quick jacking around with bullshit "handouts" and tampering with sound mortgage lending practices!

What Pelosi tries to giveth, the Bond Market taketh away, and faster than Pelosi-cum-clown can try to hand it out.

Specifically, what the market didn't like was the prospect of bypassing OFHEO and indexing Freddie and Fannie to "average" home prices for the rest of the year.

Well DUH.

Oh, that wasn't all of it.

We also found out that a supposed "rogue trader" caused a multi-billion-dollar loss for a French Bank, which they had to unwind last week and into Monday.

Then this afternoon The Fed claimed this had nothing to do with their deliberations, and further, that they didn't know about it before their teleconference?

One word: HORSESHIT.

Let's talk about what probably really happened at The Fed.

Ben and Buds saw a precipitous drop in commercial credit demand last week. They were faced with either draining huge amounts of liquidity or dropping the FFT.
Instead of allowing the market to sort out what was going on or doing the right thing and telling the banks - both in the US and overseas - to fess up to what was going on "or else", they PANICED, and held an emergency meeting via teleconference, "agreeing" that the solution was an emergency rate action. This decision was allegedly made (according to Steve Lies-man) Monday night.
NOW we find out that the "collapse" in credit demand (and flight to Treasury debt) was actually caused by this "rogue trader" who spasm'd the equity markets worldwide. Or was it? Was that a rogue trader or was it really an institutional attempt - with authorization - on their part to bail themselves out of a bad position or three? Hmmm... who knows.... but the CAUSE of the panic is now clear.
And NOW the crack-whore equity market is demanding another 50 bips in rate cut next week!
Now this wouldn't be so bad except that BenDover had to inject a shitload of liquidity to maintain the target today. In fact, the slosh took a fairly sizeable rocket shot northward.

The bond market, being experts at sniffing out bullshit, saw all of the above and, having behaved itself up until this point along with a slowing economy, reversed hard, rocketing the cost of money for government debt upwards by six percent in one day!

Oh, and if you look at the short term (13 week) Bill market (the IRX) it rocketed higher by NINE PERCENT!

But but but you sputter, I thought BenDover's move was going to make mortgages and other loans more affordable?

Well let's see.

On 1/18 the 10 year closed at 3.648%.

Today, the 10 year closed at 3.640%.

Rate cut? Lower interest rates for mortgages and other debt?

Where?

BenDover cut the FFT by 75 bips and the Treasury Market gave him the finger, taking it ALL back in less than 24 hours!

You had about three hours yesterday to capture that lower mortgage rate.

If you didn't lock yesterday, tough crap - you missed it.

And if The Fed - and Congress - doesn't listen to the Bond Market and stop this stupidity government debt costs will continue to skyrocket and drag private debt costs higher, instead of the other way around, and will ultimately force the government to contract itself due to an inability to meet its interest obligations.

You only think The Fed controls interest rates.

It doesn't, and this is what the debt markets do when they get pissed off at government stupidity.

You want to know what I think homeowners who are upside down ought to do after being RAMMED by the politicians today and Ben Bernanke on Turesday?

After seeing Ben Bernanke AND our government DRIVE UP, RATHER THAN DOWN, DEBT COSTS, DIRECTLY AND INDIRECTLY SCREWING MORE AND MORE PEOPLE?

They should walk away. Send in the keys. Fuck it. Yes, your credit will be trashed for 7 years. So what?

Tell the bank to get fucked.

Today we had reported the first ANNUAL decline in home prices since the statistics began in the 1960s, and in all probability, since The Depression!

THIS IS NOT OVER.

House prices will continue to decline for the next TWO TO THREE YEARS, and if you're underwater NOW, you're going to be MORE UNDERWATER in a couple more years.

YOU WILL BE A DEBT SLAVE UNLESS YOU ACT TO STOP IT!

CUT YOUR LOSSES! Screw it. Check with an attorney to see if you can have other assets attached (in MANY states the answer is "no" on a purchase money first) and tell the people who have screwed you - and us - to get fucked.

You can either default the debt NOW, or LATER, after throwing even more money down the rathole. But either way, as the economy contracts and your job comes under stress, if you're upside down you're screwed.

Better to take the pain RIGHT NOW and cut off a finger rather than losing an entire LEG in a year or two!

Hell, even Cramer recommended doing this ON NATIONAL TELEVISION a couple of months ago!

Oh, and guess what - the mainstream press is even talking about it! Read all about it right here!

LISTEN UP FOLKS: YOU HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO TAKE ANY LEGAL ACTION YOU WISH. Analyze this as a pure BUSINESS DECISION, talk to an attorney, and then ACT.

SAVE YOURSELF.

As this deflation of the monetary base gains steam if you do not act you will have thrown away valuable money you could have otherwise held on to. Go rent a place first - so you pass the credit check and dig yourself out of your personal housing hell!

Beware equity investors.

The short bus is busting at the seams.

Buy this rally? Oh hell no.

It won't take long before reality sets in.

This is a time to sit on your hands and patiently wait for the opportunity to throw darts at the quote page of the Wall Street Journal, then short whatever you hit.

That day is coming, and soon.

Here's your technical.


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Greg

FFS WTF Facti????

the new world order types have a plan???? Of fucking course they do, its been out there for ages, pick any of the following and they all form part of the grand plan.

global population reduction
wealth transfer
serfdom
fascist style control
rfid chipping
brainwashing

the list goes on....

lol

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Richard

Dear Ms. Supkis: Please don't worry about any systemic risks or failures, as I document in the linked article one has the Security And Prosperity Partnership to deal with those things.

As for me, I plan to sleep well tonight because my pillow is filled with silver coins; and I've taken a full dose of the Investors Klonopin -- the gold ETF, GLD, and loaded up to today with 'sells' of the ETF, TLT, and 'puts' of the closed end municipal bond fund VGM and others using margin credit on my gold ETF.

MIKE

stimulate our spending fixes other peoples economies, more treasons????????????

K

the new world order types have a plan???? Of fucking course they do, its been out there for ages, pick any of the following and they all form part of the grand plan.

Not that long ago I would write off your whole list as conspiracy theory hooey. Now...there have been so much has gone down where I thought "naw, they can't get away with that", "WTF? There's gonna be riots!", "But, but, that is a flat out LIE!!!"...I find "crazy" stuff more believable.

Y'all pick up the avian flu item in the news? Y'know I don't even remember where I saw it but I swear I read something about vaccinating/inoculating "important" people against a virus that would wipe out many of us peons. Sounds totally tinfoil..but then you remember hearing about some people being warned not to fly on commercial airlines prior to 9/11, and you think hmmmm...naw, couldn't be, could it?

Pluto

Now hold on a minute, folks.

Yes, the old savings and investing game is over. But that doesn't mean you have to do without. For godsake. It's so easy to make money in this type of market, whether you use leverage or not. Plus, it's a sure thing. Geesh.

For you savers and CD people, go over to Everbank.com world desk and buy global currency basket CDs. Here's a link:

http://www.everbank.com/001WorldCurrencyCDIndexRates.aspx

Make interest PLUS currency appreciation. FDIC insured and all that for you Americans. It's not that complicated. Look at the fundamentals that Elaine presents and it's easy to tell which countries to invest in and for how long. Just roll over if you're in a drawdown.

And that's just for savers. Currency trading is certainly the only way to decouple yourself from a nation's economic destiny. You can become sovereign yourself. What difference does it make where you actually live?

blues

Well lookie here!

The New York Times

By Elizabeth Becker And David E. Sanger
Published: December 2, 2003

President in a Political Vise Over Steel Tariff Decision

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http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res

=9E03E3DE1E3AF931A35751C1A9659C8B63&sec=&spon

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With the White House signaling that President Bush would abide by a ruling of the World Trade Organization and lift the tariffs he placed last year on foreign steel, American steel makers angrily declared on Monday that he should resist doing so rather than give in to threats of retaliation from Europe.

''This blackmail, this intimidation by Europe, is just further weakening our manufacturing base,'' Thomas J. Usher, chairman and chief executive of the United States Steel Corporation, told reporters in a telephone news conference.

Mr. Usher insisted that the White House had not indicated what Mr. Bush would do, and said he planned to ask the president about the issue on Tuesday.

He will have his chance: awkwardly for Mr. Bush, to whom the decision is fraught with political implications, Mr. Usher is a host of a $1 million fund-raiser scheduled for Pittsburgh on Tuesday, and it appears that the White House may be delaying any announcement until the president has left the city that steel built.

[....]

In a taste of a debate within the Democratic Party over trade, another candidate, Representative Dennis J. Kucinich of Ohio, challenged the right of the W.T.O. to declare the tariffs illegal. ''Clearly the tariffs are needed and are effective,'' he said. ''But the president has abandoned the sovereignty required to maintain them.''


But the Mainstream Globalist Media insists that only another NAFTonian Clinton is "electable." I demand Kucinich, dammit. I know he dropped out, but the hell with it. I'm voting Green in '08.

John East

Elaine,
Your healthy attitude to money is rare in this day and age. The majority display ignorance and indifference to their finances, as long as they are allowed to spend 105% of their income, year after year, often on bigger and better goods (according to the advertisers) their lives achieve fulfilment. Then we have the other side of the coin, a significant minority addicted to the making of money for its own sake. I find nothing sadder than the sight of multi-billionaires such as Warren Buffet or Jack Welch, whilst probably admirable individuals in many ways, who will probably still be working 12 hour days until the day they drop dead from exhaustion. Let’s face it, once one has sufficient income for the basic needs of survival any extra is nice, but it shouldn’t come before relationships and personal mental wellbeing.

My philosophy is to earn extra money above my current needs solely to cover future inflation and property taxes to pay the ever growing demands of our greedy, incompetent ruling elites. Knowing them for what they are, and their methods of robbing us all, makes contrarian investing relatively easy and lucrative.

Keep up the good work. Your insights are invaluable.

CK

Do not hold your breath waiting for those rebate checks, the IRS is in the middle of income tax processing right now and won't be done with that job until mid-May. The IRS cannot even beging processing the "stimulus" checks until they have addresses and number of dependents and incomes and other assorted marginalia available from THIS year's filings to determine who is eligible and for how much.

Teddy

Kucinich had the best ideas to correct the imbalances, and Ron Paul's platform to eliminate the Fed and sound money also would have demolished the New World Order. We are being told that debt doesn't matter by our politicians. That has to mean that the debt we owe to China, Japan, Europe, and the rest of the world has to be non-recourse. What the Fed, Congress, and the president have been enacting into law, especially recently, has to reinforce this mind set that we will never, ever have to nor will we pay back that debt. The only thing that would wake us up from this fairy tale would be a US dollar tanking. And as Elaine said, this could very easily lead to WW III. Or will it lead to a one world government? Highly unlikely.

Elaine Supkis

Thank you all for all the information and insights. I learn so much from everyone here. I really appreciate people who take the time to write back here at the comments section.

About the bonds: YIKES!! I am NOT surprised that bonds traders who are, by nature, BEARS, are hammering the 'Lucky House, Joy Eatery' fake free money being processed by the Western central bankers. They know that inflation is taking off again...oil is up!


We are on the Horns of Dilemma. Everything we do to try to avoid the inevitable pain will make things worse.

And Kucinich: He had to give up. Alas. He and Ron Paul are friends and even joked about running together. I wish they would. I would vote for them both, they balance each other out.

Teddy

It's being reported that Ecuador's government is seizing 17 mining concessions held by foreign companies. Yup, it's ok to use foreign money to develop natural resources in poor countries, but if it suddenly becomes valuable, it's a whole new ballgame.

CK

There's an update to the Ecuador story. Not 17, 100's of local and international mining ops.
Ecuador also offered to extend the American lease on that airbase in Ecuador if the USA would allow Ecudaor to build an airbase in Miami. ( That was a few months ago but I liked the idea )
All government is theft.

Elaine Supkis

I constantly talk about confiscations. I had property confiscated long ago when I was a young adult. Lesson in life: power does whatever it wants to do. This includes wars.

The US is fatally weakened. This free for all shows the world, we are out of control and we can't fight all our trade partners when we can't control Iraq and very poor Afghanistan, the poorest nation on earth.

We are PWND.

MIKE

given the right price, one year of afghanistans dope production would pay of all debts...sad but true?

Greg

we are pwnd :) LOL

;)


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